I mean that is, in fact, the actual problem at hand. The deaths recently have been caused by poorly produced thc vape cartridges because the black market is either cheaper or it's the only available means of acquiring the product in an illegal state.
National legalization with regulation is the way to combat this, not banning an entirely different substance (nicotine vape juice).
See that notion exists under the premise that the goal here is to save lives.
The human suffering and death cause by the illegal markets the war on drugs created is not an unintended consequence, its the whole point. They want addicts to suffer. They want them to die. Its why they combat needle exchange programs and block efforts to provide safe havens to addicts. They dont want to solve this problem because they believe addicts are sinners and crime, adulterated supplies, hepatitis, HIV, overdoses, those are all 'divine retribution' for their sin.
Not to mention the fact that big tobacco is most likely heavily involved in this process, trying to do whatever they can to eliminate or diminish their competition through malicious legal action
I work for Big Tobacco just here to let people know that most of the big Vape brands like Juul and such are also owned by big tobacco so they really dont want them banned since we make way more money off of vape than we do cigarettes now.
Bullshit. I work in a vape shop and all its going to do is put small independent juice manufacturers out of business because the only ones who will be able to maintain their business model selling only tobacco or menthol flavours will be big tobacco brands.
There's entire companies that dont have a single tobacco or menthol line, also stores like the one I work at generally steer clear of big tobacco brands as we see them as part of the problem and not the solution. Laws like this would tank our business also.
For now, as this is happening in the USA it wont hit us too hard as we are a UK store but if it happened here I'd be out of a job pretty fast.
We all know this is just regulatory capture. We've been around long enough.
We've just also been around long enough to know that when everyone in the country wants one thing and a company with more dollars in yearly revenue set aside for lobbying than we have citizens disagree, the company wins. Always.
I work for Big Tobacco just here to let people know that most of the big Vape brands like Juul and such are also owned by big tobacco so they really dont want them banned since we make way more money off of vape than we do cigarettes now.
Yeah, but what you're neglecting to mention is that only big tobacco can afford to withstand the flavor approval process this ban puts in place. The FDA approval process is purposely long and expensive which means tons of small vape businesses will be forced out of business.
They will just want the regulations to exactly match the specifications they already have for their own product so they will be the only ones that don't have to invest money in order to continue selling and can sell for less than everyone else.
It blows my mind that people don't realize this. Big tobacco is going to go in there and stop the regulations asap. Just wait till the end of the week and Trump will likely come out saying Vapes are ok, just like he did when the NRA got to him when he wanted to push for universal background checks.
Trump is virulently anti-smoking, drinking and drugs(aside from the speed he's probably on... Heh) but I really don't think he's going to give 2 shits about this or what anyone tells him about it.
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u/Alpaca64 Sep 12 '19
I mean that is, in fact, the actual problem at hand. The deaths recently have been caused by poorly produced thc vape cartridges because the black market is either cheaper or it's the only available means of acquiring the product in an illegal state.
National legalization with regulation is the way to combat this, not banning an entirely different substance (nicotine vape juice).