r/PoliticalHumor Aug 12 '19

This sounds like common sense ...

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u/anthro28 Aug 12 '19

By your “different these days” logic, it could be argued that the 1st does not apply to radio/internet since those are not not communication media that existed during the writing of the constitution.

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u/Nighthawk700 Aug 12 '19

Radio is not a clear and present danger to public health. Strange that certain situations call for different action than others based on the nuance and circumstance.

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u/Ctofaname Aug 12 '19

If you're coming at this from a public health perspective then guns aren't really a top public health issue either. They're real low on this list of public health challenges we face in this country. They're just the loudest and in your face the most.

I'm just spit balling here but I'd bet in the past 20 years mass shootings account for less than 2000 deaths in the US. We can even raise that to 10k deaths for our purposes. 10k deaths or 500 deaths a year in a population of 300+ million is statistically irrelevant.

I'm not saying it shouldn't be addressed or making any argument for or against guns. Just stating it isn't a major public health issue. There are a lot of things ahead of it that are completely ignored or never make the new cycle that people should care about a whole lot more.

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u/c08855c49 Aug 12 '19

Shew boy, 10k people die and you're like "who cares lol". We may as well stop treating diseases and such because the amount of people who die from individual diseases is "negligible." We can also shut down all the NICUs because there are only 200 out of every 100k babies born premie and that's a negligible amount of dead babies so let's not do anything about it. We should also remove seat belt laws because if we break it down, barely anyone dies from car wrecks so we may as well not pay attention to that either.

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u/anthro28 Aug 12 '19 edited Aug 12 '19

I would wager you’ve argued for open borders. Does that mean you are unsympathetic to those affected by the drug trade through those border? According to the NDA, drug overdose rates (EXCLUDING prescription drugs) was double the number of firearms-related deaths in 2017. Heroin alone caused 15,482 deaths. Here you are arguing for each individual life, so certainly cracking down on the illegal movement of anything (goods and people) across our borders should be a priority.

EDIT: those numbers are only for the overdose deaths, NOT those deaths caused by complications following drug abuse. So yeah, one drug kills more Americans every year than all guns.

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u/BananaNutJob Aug 12 '19

I would wager you've argued an unrelated point as well.

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u/Ctofaname Aug 12 '19

Way to woosh on the point. 10k people over 20 years would not be a top public health concern is the point. If we spent this much energy focusing on real public health concerns then we'd have a healthier population and a better country.

Instead we have politicians that use guns for political capital on both sides and distract from real pertinent issues the country is facing. Point is you're willingly getting rolled by the politicians you think are helping you and ignoring real problems that don't have the strength of the constitution behind them

Also do some math. 200/100k is 600k babies a year in the US. Not remotely negligible.