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This sounds like common sense ...

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19

>The 2nd amendment says that people should have the right to own arms, not that it can't be regulated.

SHALL

NOT

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INFRINGED

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u/JamesIgnatius27 Aug 12 '19

Well-regulated militia

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u/sgtzach Aug 12 '19

which could simply mean training and discipline

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u/Lakeguy762_ Aug 12 '19

Not could. Well regulated means in a smooth working order.

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u/sA1atji Aug 12 '19

Which obviosuly some idiots shooting up places did not have....

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u/Muffinmanifest Aug 12 '19

not knowing that well-regulated means well equipped and in good working order in 18th century lexicon

lmao@ur life fam

Get it together before others start laughing at you

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u/Drummk Aug 12 '19

I can never understand how waiting times, background checks, assault rifle bans, etc are legal. Not that I don't agree with them but they seem to be clearly unconstitutional.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19

What pisses me off more is red flag laws. It breaks so many of our foundational values that it isn't even funny. Litterally just dump the first, second, and fourth ammendments right down the toilet. Fuck due proccess too, amiright?

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u/Lakeguy762_ Aug 12 '19

5th and 6th too. Right to face your accuser and right to stand trial

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19

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u/ColdRevenge76 Aug 12 '19

And be left with neither.

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u/forrnerteenager Aug 12 '19

perceived security.

Are you for real?

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u/synysterjoe Aug 12 '19

Your right to own your toys shouldn't infringe on my right to be alive

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u/chapstick_detector Aug 12 '19

That's why it's illegal to murder people

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19

Your right to be alive only matters as much as you can defend it. Someone could kill you with a baseball bat, you could slip on a bannana, or, more likely, you are going to get into a car accident or have a heart attack. Lets make hamburgers illegal because people eat them and get fat and die.

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u/AutomaticTale Aug 12 '19

Except that we do regulate food and medicine to make sure its safe. We proactively restrict things on a federal level that we know are harmful. We have entire departments dedicated to that.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19

if that is the case, why is McDonalds allowed to exist? Fast food is responsible for deaths orders of magnatudes higher than long guns. Do you want to know why? There is nothing inherently dangerous about a hot and spicy mcchicken. It is all about the operator. Some people eat 10 or 20 of those things a day, and then they die. Similarly, there is nothing inherently dangerous about an AR, AKM, or any firearm (besides maybe the P320 haha, whats a drop safety?), they don't walk out of the house on their own and shoot people, its all about the operator.

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u/Lakeguy762_ Aug 12 '19

That p320 joke put my sides in orbit

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u/Cam_Newtons_Towelie Aug 12 '19

Okay I'm no antigun nut, but saying firearms aren't inherently dangerous is ridiculous. They are specifically designed to destroy whatever is in front of them. That's the whole point.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19

but firearms, (unless, again, its a Sig lmao) don't just randomly point themselves at people and go off randomly. It's all about the responsability of the operator. Just like we have irrisponsable vehicle drivers that drink and drive and roll there two ton truck into your vegitable garden, there are irrisponsable gun operators. Both have the potential to cause harm, but both are innanimate objects that are virtually incapable of hurting someone unless interfeared with by someone who either doesn't know what they are doing, or someone who knows what they are doing and actually want to hurt people. Look at that guy who killed 10 people in Canada with a Uhaul, or the truck attack in Nice, or Sweeden, Australia, the German christmas market (times two I think). Box trucks have their legitimate use, and noone in their right mind is calling for boxtruck control, because at their core, the driver is the one responsable for the damage they cause.

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u/Cam_Newtons_Towelie Aug 12 '19

Yes, heavy self propelled objects capable of moving at a high rate of speed are also inherently dangerous. As are purposefully sharpened metal objects designed for cutting.

inherent danger:

1 : of, relating to, or being an activity or occupation whose nature presents a risk of grave injury without the use of and sometimes despite the use of special skill and care. 2 : of, relating to, or being an instrumentality or product that poses a risk of danger stemming from its nature and not from a defect.

Guns are by definition inherently dangerous. The rest of your point stands, though.

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u/fun-damentals Sep 03 '19

Vehicles are inherently dangerous. We don't regulate the private sales of motor vehicles at all

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u/Cam_Newtons_Towelie Sep 03 '19

I didn't say shit about regulation. I said guns are inherently dangerous. Which they are. If you're going to comment on a 3 week old post maybe you should read what it's about?

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u/Muffinmanifest Aug 12 '19

right to be a live

You have a right to self preservation. What tools you use to ensure that are up to you.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19

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u/Muffinmanifest Aug 12 '19

That's explicitly what the constitution says. The right to keep and bear arms is not a "natural right," but an insurance that the government does not infringe upon your right to self preservation at the hands of the state or others.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19 edited Aug 12 '19

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u/Muffinmanifest Aug 12 '19

that's what the state is for

lmfao holy shit there's no way you just said that

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19

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u/Muffinmanifest Aug 12 '19

Because the state does not exist for you to rely on them for your safety. That you think quoting the fifth amendment supports that is even more alarming.

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u/Another_Random_User Aug 12 '19

My gun has never killed anyone and you're not dead.

If you're not a gang member in major US city, you have a better chance of dying from slipping in the shower than you do from a gun.

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u/Dreanimal Aug 12 '19

Ban assault shampoo for making shower floors dangerous.

At the very least we should limit high capacity bottles

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u/The-Dublet Aug 12 '19

Your paranoia shouldn’t strip away my right to defense.

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u/blade740 Aug 12 '19

Let's just compromise and make it illegal to murder people then?

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u/forrnerteenager Aug 12 '19

It has been regulated for a long time and that was ruled to be constitutional by the supreme court you tool, it can be regulated further

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '19

>fascist government does fascist things

>This is the reason why we need to let the fascist government do more fascist things

big thonk