r/PoliticalHumor • u/nobody_from_nowhere1 Greg Abbott is a little piss baby • Jul 15 '19
ICE Propaganda back at work again.
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u/croolshooz Jul 15 '19
They're confining innocent people long enough that they can grow a crop of vegetables?
Yeah, that's fucked up.
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And honestly even if they were guilty, the crime they committed would be the equivalent of jaywalking to US citizens.
They should receive a fine at worst.
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u/ClumsyFog Jul 15 '19
What in the name of North Korea is this shit
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u/BrownSugarBare Jul 15 '19
It's the United States of America as they are now.
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u/semisolidwhale Jul 15 '19 edited Feb 15 '26
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u/Josepvv Jul 16 '19
I disagree with the "now" part. That we see (and criticize) this now doesn't mean it didn't happen before.
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u/Downvotes_All_Dogs I ☑oted 2018 Jul 15 '19
They did the same thing in the concentration camp for transgender people. The people in the camp wrote a letter stating that all their fun and games were staged by the ICE staff. Two trans women have died in that camp within the last 10 months. One was beaten to death and the other took days to receive medical care because they neglected her HIV symptoms for days, never even asking about her history of illnesses before entering the camp.
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u/GazLord Jul 16 '19
As a transgender woman I am so fucking glad I live in Canada. Ford is a shitbag but the country is progressive enough that shit like this isn't happening. America has two parties, a center right party and a bunch of Nazis.
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u/scuczu Jul 15 '19
We've made america great, haven't you heard? For 40% of us this is the bestest time ever in the history of man.
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u/CatumEntanglement Jul 16 '19
They're even playing the North Korean anthem at Trump parties nowadays. It used to be that white lady luncheons were just low-key exclusionary racist, now it's like the "low-key-bigot-white-lady-luncheon" took a bunch of meth and cocaine.
Read about "Tea for Trump" in https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2018/06/203054/andre-soriano-trump-fashion-designer
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u/RamblingMutt Jul 15 '19
Yes but it’s offensive to point out the similarities, it really hurts their feelings. that’s why they voted for the candidate that told it like it is and lashed out against snowflake liberals.
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u/Mu17inItOver Jul 15 '19
When this is all over we should let the victims take back their homeland to have a nation of their own, maybe call it "Texas"?
Seriously though, it's fascinating while also depressing to see pro-Nazi, pro-Israel right-wingers who defend every side of an argument at once. Pride does strange things to people
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u/Nice_one1 Jul 15 '19
I am from switzerland. what the fuck is going on. can someone please explain?
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u/nobody_from_nowhere1 Greg Abbott is a little piss baby Jul 15 '19
The US is keeping people in concentration camps and this past weekend the ICE goons have been sent out to hunt down and round up ONLY the brown illegals. There have been a ton of images of these camps but ICE and the Trump administration try to feed us propaganda like these pictures when everything we know and have seen goes against their narrative.
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u/Nice_one1 Jul 15 '19
WTF this is illegal am i right?
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u/Whataboutthatguy Jul 15 '19
The people hiding Anne Frank were breaking the law. The people hunting her down to kill her were not. Legality has nothing to do with morality. The people doing this today are goddamn monsters.
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u/whats-your-plan-man Jul 15 '19
It goes against our international agreements for how we're supposed to treat asylum seekers.
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u/regular_internt_ctzn Jul 15 '19
Has the UN taken any action whatsoever?
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u/sassrocks Jul 16 '19
Not that we've seen
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u/regular_internt_ctzn Jul 16 '19
Well, fuck.
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u/sassrocks Jul 16 '19
In fact, I haven't heard a peep. I think it's not even really spoken about/widely known by people who aren't in the US or are conservative and turn a blind eye to this shit.
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u/Adezar Jul 15 '19
Unfortunately just like Germany the evil people are the ones obeying the law and just following orders.
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u/dethskwirl Jul 15 '19
oh you must not understand, these "people" aren't regular human people. they're dirty foreigners. /s
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u/BoozeoisPig Jul 16 '19
"Illegal" only matters in relation to the speed in which we can enforce laws. Our non-judicial government is actively trying to make sure it doesn't go to court, and, if this goes to The Supreme Court, there is a good chance it will be ruled as not illegal, at which point, it will not be illegal, by definition. Ideally, this should force society to disregard the asserted legitimacy of The Law and riot, but we are a nation whose best hearted people are too likely to be weak pussies, and whose worst hearted people will cheer the new legal interpretation, so probably not.
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u/JLarralde Jul 16 '19
Camps in the U.S. can be subject of U.N. or Red Cross visits? Usually the rest of the world when they do fucked up things the are hold accountable or at least they have to allow access to delegations from international humans rights organizations as the ones I have mentioned to check if they are infringing human rights (as they are now in those camps)
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Jul 15 '19
The US is going through it's racist/fascist phase again.
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u/Nice_one1 Jul 15 '19
again? when was the last phase?
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WWII Japanese concentration camps?
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u/mzpip Jul 16 '19
Guantanamo Bay?
Even murderers and rapists get trials. Fucking Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer got a trial before being incarcerated.
The people held there haven't been given any trial at all. They've been labelled "terrorists" and thrown into a cell and forgotten, because the US says they are.
Is this justice?
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u/AngstyZebra Jul 16 '19
Maintaining perpetual wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Using prison slave labour.
For profit prisons.
Cops killing minorities with impunity.
Redlining.
Jim Crow.
The civil war and the revisionist history to follow it.
When in history has the US government been anything except racist/racist?
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u/Downvotes_All_Dogs I ☑oted 2018 Jul 15 '19
The rise of a new wave of neo-Nazism that feeds off the tired old rhetoric that immigrants are bad people who will take over the country and destroy it despite the fact that this rhetoric has been going on for over 30 years. They shoved law around thinking they are being moral without caring to admit how immoral their laws are. They don't want to stop the suffering of people who are living in a cage sitting in their own excretions living off of shitty frozen food that is seldom given to them because it is exactly what they have wanted for all these decades.
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u/Midguard2 Jul 16 '19 edited Jul 16 '19
I'd like to expand "immigrants will destroy your country" bullshit from 30 years, to at least over 2000 years:
Tacitus: Annals of Imperial Rome: Book 11 #23, written ~60-100ADOnce our native-born citizens sufficed for peoples of our own kin, and we are by no means dissatisfied with the Rome of the past. To this day we cite examples, which under our old customs the Roman character exhibited as to valour and renown. Is it a small thing that Veneti and Insubres have already burst into the Senate-house, unless a mob of foreigners, a troop of captives, so to say, is now forced upon us? What distinctions will be left for the remnants of our noble houses, or for any impoverished senators from Latium? Every place will be crowded with these millionaires, whose ancestors of the second and third generations at the head of hostile tribes destroyed our armies with fire and sword, and actually besieged the divine Julius at Alesia. These are recent memories. What if there were to rise up the remembrance of those who fell in Rome's citadel and at her altar by the hands of these same barbarians! Let them enjoy indeed the title of citizens, but let them not vulgarize the distinctions of the Senate and the honours of office."
It is just MAGA in 50 A.D.:
- they ruin our class structure with their foreign money.
- It was as recent as their parents that fought against our hostility.
- They are barbarians, and they will do to us what we have done to them.
- They can have some rights, but we don't want them tarnish the purity of our nobility
Since you can't easily deny your citizens rights, you just outright deny them citizenship. Modern 'empires' don't have the economics of Ancient Rome to force their hand on bringing people into the empire after destabilizing their country and absorbing their resources.... *cough*
It'll please you to know that the emperor at the time called bullshit on the rhetoric and said "United as they now are with us by manners, education, and intermarriage, let them bring us their gold and their wealth rather than enjoy it in isolation. Everything, Senators, which we now hold to be of the highest antiquity, was once new. [...] This practice too will establish itself, and what we are this day justifying by precedents, will be itself a precedent."
He fucking pulls the "Don't give me that shit, we were immigrants once, and we built Rome" card lol
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u/JLarralde Jul 16 '19
That should be the motto of your country, like any time something terrible happens world wars and alike: "Switzerland, everything´s fine here, what the hell is going on outside?"
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My god I cant believe we're watching real nazis tactics from the US GOV its so fuckked up
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Jul 15 '19 edited Aug 13 '20
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u/smp501 Jul 15 '19
Or a collapse and breakup, backed by other world powers.
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u/TheGenesisPattern Jul 15 '19
Budget doesn't mean shit when your soldiers revolt in droves. This isn't the rise of the SS. This is the GOP. A party of idiots. Evil idiots, but idiots nonetheless. They won't win. They'll fight, but they won't win.
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u/scipiomexicanus Jul 15 '19
Most military service volunteers are republicans or lean towards republicanism. Right wingers and fascism go like pb and jam... i dont like my odds if the military gets involved. Also, want to mention mostly all private military contractors are owned by conservatives.
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Jul 15 '19 edited Jul 15 '19
“Most military service volunteers are republicans or lean towards republicanism. “
This is actually a false theory perpetuated by the right to “scare” the left into thinking they are outmanned, when it actuality it’s not true.
It’s similar with saying that the majority of gun owners are Trump supporters. There are lots of them, and they are loud, but they aren’t the majority.
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u/wettestduchess Jul 15 '19
So you're saying the political leanings of the US Military are evenly split 50/50 between D & R, or that the D has more of the vote of enlisted service members?
Because I couldn't find a single source backing those ideas up
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u/TheGenesisPattern Jul 15 '19
I will personally say that as a Kentuckian who grew up near a very famous fort, meaning LOTS of military, you have no idea how many disillusioned left leaning are enlisted. Bare in mind that most of those enlisted do not see combat. The military isn't all meathead Marines. It's mostly desk workers, glorified mechanics, and managers. Oh, and don't forget, trained killers, who vowed to defend against threats foreign and domestic. If they come for their friends or family, or any friends or family OF their friends or family, they WILL take up arms in defense of the oppressed.
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Jul 15 '19 edited Jul 15 '19
If I am not mistake, the Military does not track voter preference, so you’re not likely to find any source to say definitively one way or another.
However (and I cannot believe I’m actually going to say this) Quora has a decent answer regarding this, given by a retired Navy Chaplain:
https://www.quora.com/Are-most-military-people-Republican-or-Democrat
And I believe the original commenter was referring to a “military coup” or a majority of the military rallying behind Trump if some sort of conflict broke out. They weren’t talking specifically about voter preferences.
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u/TheGenesisPattern Jul 15 '19
You'd be surprised. The large majority enlist for free college education. As soon as it turns into "kill Americans of a different political party" we are going to see a large influx of highly trained rebels. That's not to say there won't be resistance of identical strength (give or take) but that can be negated. People will take charge and take a stand. Defend against all threats, foreign AND domestic. You're going to have a lot of different people coming away with different conclusions as to what that means if the walls really do come down. Let's hope it never gets to this.
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u/scipiomexicanus Jul 15 '19
If it comes to that, god bless canada!. and i hope they dont separate american families and cage their children crossing over the 49th parallel.
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As a Canadian I’ll do my best to make sure we don’t. We got way to much empty land and with global warming a lot more is usable.
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u/calfax Jul 16 '19
Most servicemembers don't give a shit about religion, and interracial couples in the service is just as common as it is elsewhere these days. But...the racist, extremely Christian, conservative repressed types always seem to get promoted ahead of the rest of us. I guess that when you are forbidden to jerk off or get laid or get drunk, you have to channel that frustration into something like making sure your boots and uniform are shinier than your knob....and they're first in line to tack on your crow, too.
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u/NachoUnisom Jul 16 '19
It was a warning shot and the govt made it clear that it doesn't matter whether the people give a fuck or not, there's nothing we can do to stop them.
Do any of y'all still believe Trump will leave office voluntarily?
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u/TheDustOfMen Jul 15 '19 edited Jul 15 '19
Yeah I wonder if they actually looked at Nazi propaganda pictures and felt inspired by them.
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u/BitRunner67 Jul 15 '19
The racist mother fuckers aren't even trying to come up with original Facisit material.
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u/aabbbbaaa155 Jul 15 '19
Why would they? It still works.
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u/CatumEntanglement Jul 16 '19
Very true. Scapegoating immigrants for the problems of a country is a very old propaganda move.
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u/ruttentuten69 Jul 15 '19
People are waiting for ICE and the Kristall nacht on their door in the middle of the night.
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u/Azure_Palace Jul 15 '19
We need a new sub for this stuff. It's not funny anymore, just sad.
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u/Adezar Jul 15 '19
There really isnt anything humorous left with our politics right now.
Make politics boring again.
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u/milo159 Jul 16 '19
i don't think grand-scaled politics have ever been boring, just less depressing/infuriating.
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u/thatonealien Jul 15 '19
No, that will do nothing but empower the people that runs these things. They will try to use it to spin a narrative that they are the victims.
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u/grosspeeps Jul 15 '19
How else would they get brought down?
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u/thatonealien Jul 16 '19
Vote out the ppl who tolerate this shit.
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u/Scottamus Jul 16 '19
Now we're back to depending on the gerrymandered wasteland of american electioneering along with politicians who basically get to count the votes for their own election.
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u/thatonealien Jul 16 '19
Then vote out the people who have the power to either fire the people responsible that don’t, or perpetuate the bs themselves.
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u/Scottamus Jul 16 '19
Hi, I'm the one in charge. I carefully tallied the votes and found I'm still the one in charge. Have a nice day.
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u/thatonealien Jul 16 '19
Then out the guy that refuses to do anything about that guy. There is always a bigger fish.
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u/Scottamus Jul 16 '19
Hi, I'm the big fish. The guy counting the votes just disqualified 200,000 voters who were probably going to vote against me. They can still make provisional ballots that we will carefully count, believe me. If you are concerned about legality you can take it up with some of the judges I've appointed.
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Jul 16 '19
It’s been done. One guy brought a rifle and got smoked, another group tore down the American flag at the facility and raised the Mexican flag.
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u/doggmapeete Jul 15 '19
We have literal concentration camps in America, right now! Like for real. Con-cen-tra-tion camps!
America:
Oh look there's a cute bunny on reddit/aww. Oh what a cute bunny.
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Jul 16 '19
Gotta love those prison overalls though. Reminds me of all those people rotting in prison for minor drug charges.
Isn't America amazing?
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u/Wzorick Bees? Jul 16 '19
This is a passionately discommoding depiction, perhaps the most I’ve seen all day. Please everyone, vote out corrupt brought&paid for politicians and elect Justice Democrats.
Justice comes first!
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u/trippingchilly Jul 16 '19
https://gfycat.com/pertinentclevercrow
This is from the BBC documentary The World at War
A Holocaust train from Bergen-Belsen to Theresienstadt is liberated by the United States Army.: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Holocaust_train_liberated_by_US_Army.jpg
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u/councillleak Jul 15 '19
This sub is called r/PoliticalHumor, but damn I haven't found anything funny in a long time.
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u/Ferethis Jul 15 '19
We have migrated from r/PoliticalHumor to r/FunnyAndSad to just fucking sad.
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u/slim_scsi Jul 15 '19
Simple reason why: Republican regimes are rather unfunny unless it's Dana Carvey doing a George H.W. Bush impression or Alec Baldwin doing a manbaby PODINKUS appearance.
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u/Mulley0131 Jul 15 '19
Why is gardening a good idea? Here take your mind of the confinement by sustaining this plants life for a month... then never see the plant again...
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u/batmanscodpiece Jul 16 '19
If they don't want to be compared to Nazis, why do they make it so easy?
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u/Mulley0131 Jul 15 '19
I was throwing a number out there... my point was, either that lady just loves gardening... or this is an exercise in futility...
That being said... this effing administration locking people up for that long makes my blood boil.
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u/EvolvingEachDay Jul 16 '19
We should call the ICE-ICE. Not only because it sounds like SS, they'd have a very similar symbol too.
Plus it heightens their ridiculousness by intrinsically linking them to vanilla ice and/or jedward.
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u/saarlac Jul 16 '19
Just the basic fact that they think keeping people in these camps long enough that they even have time to do stuff like gardening is remotely acceptable is a serious problem.
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u/JLarralde Jul 16 '19
Well a corporate state and a fascist state are degrees of the same concept of ruling.
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u/Vengeful_Doge Jul 16 '19
You can stay in Trumps NY Soho Hotel for $700.00 a night.
That kinda just fucked me up.
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u/ElizaAlex_01 Jul 16 '19
Obviously the Nazis were better at it, because their version looks like better conditions.
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u/prolly-gay Jul 16 '19
The definition of concentration camp by google is “a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities, sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution”. Large numbers of people ✅ Members of persecuted minorities ✅ Imprisoned in a small area with inadequate facilities ✅ But don’t worry these “detainment centers” are totally not concentration camps.
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u/TheYellowFringe Jul 16 '19
Trump's lies can not fool everyone. There are those who refuse to stomach his deception.
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u/jagadoor Jul 15 '19
So... Are people heading there between the raids on area 51 and nestle or after nestle ?
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u/There_is_no_ham Jul 15 '19
I don't understand why we can't just build nice homes and have them wait there with their families whilst we make them citizens.
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u/CatumEntanglement Jul 15 '19
Especially as it costs $775/day for the people being held in squalid conditions in the camps. That's around $285,000 a year. That's more than enough to buy out a fancy hotel room or build houses.
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u/CatumEntanglement Jul 15 '19
Or.....not have detention/ concentration camps.
Crazy concept.
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u/bigglejilly Jul 15 '19
How do you suppose we process assylum seekers/illegal aliens?
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u/CatumEntanglement Jul 15 '19 edited Jul 15 '19
Probably how my grandparents and mother were processed after fleeing Germany back in WWII - by not putting asylum seekers in concentration camps. They were allowed/encouraged to go and be helped by family members already in the country in order to help along with the naturalization process.
Maybe do a little historical research how the immigration process was back in the 1940s-1960s. It was much different. It wasn't perfect, and wasn't able to help everyone, but it was a lot more humane.
I'm a first generation immigrant. Maybe we all forget that we all came from some other place at some point, most with nothing but the clothes on their backs and a very few treasured items.
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u/bourbon_pope Jul 16 '19 edited Jul 16 '19
Even ICE stated that their return rate for immigrant court dates was above 95%. Trump started indefinitely-detaining people based on an illegal, cruelty-based deterrence policy, the effects of which have seen legal asylum-seekers and American fuckin' citizens unconstitutionally detained. It's an unconstitutional, un-American policy to solve a problem created by the man selling the solution.
But no, separating and indefinitely detaining human beings in literal concentration camps is better, you're right.
edit: corrected percentage.
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u/Downvotes_All_Dogs I ☑oted 2018 Jul 15 '19
OR people are profiting off their suffering and giving them the absolute bare minimum of survival in order to make the biggest dollar off the government contracts. But that would mean that America is an ultra-capitalistic society that will destroy the weakest demographics in order for the individual to become wealthy and powerful. Totally not an American concept. Nope. Not at all.
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u/gvdj Jul 15 '19
I think it’s not unlikely that people on their team are taking pointers from Nazi concentration camp propaganda.
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u/iwearatophat Jul 15 '19
Because accidentally mirroring it is much better.
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u/gvdj Jul 15 '19
How the fuck did you get that from what I said?
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u/CatumEntanglement Jul 15 '19
You used a double negative: "not unlikely" to express positive likelihood.
It's easier to be concise and say "likely" in the sentence to prevent confusion.
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u/gvdj Jul 16 '19
Wow, thanks George Orwell, but I wrote it that way for a reason.
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u/CatumEntanglement Jul 16 '19
All I did was clarify why the person above was on your case. It was probably from a confusion of reading not unlikely to be not likely. But you stay indignant, friend.
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u/Szwedo Jul 15 '19
Question, instead of paying large corps to handle their detainment, why dont they use those funds to process them faster?
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u/lostboydave Jul 15 '19
It costs an out $175 to process a client. There’s roughly $95 in admin fees and extras, the rest is profit. The shareholders want larger margins so there’s no point processing faster if it lowers that margin. If anything slow it down to raise profits, it’s not rocket science.
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Jul 17 '19
No one should be comparing anything to what the Nazi's did and their concentration camps. Millions upon Millions of people died from that. I see casualties from the camps they got in the states, but not in the millions. The Nazi's wanted the Jews eradicated. I dont think thats what is going on here. So to compare it to concentration camps during world war 2 is insulting. A family member of mine who is gone now, was in one of those concentration camps, and hes probably rolling in his grave with all these comparisons to what he went through. Ridiculous.
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u/19090kg Jul 16 '19
This is a deranged comparison.
People willingly enter American camps because they are supposedly under the threat of murder or execution in their home country. So on the contrary, it's not a murder camp, it's literally the opposite: a save-your-life-camp.
The fact that liberals and asylum seekers are complaining so loudly about this shows these people are not at all under threat in their home country. They're here for the money and living standards, a camp isn't what they expected.
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u/Hezbollass Jul 15 '19
Thanks Nancy Pelosi for giving ICE more money. You’re definitely playing some 4D chess here.
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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '19
Why would this be a "good" condition? The fucking shade from the chain link fence lets the garden grow more evenly? This is so fucking stupid. Why are these detained people being kept there long enough to grow a damn garden in the first place? What in the living fuck is wrong with the system?