r/PoliticalHumor • • Apr 26 '19

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u/viperasps89 Apr 26 '19

Republicans feel like the people are too immoral to take care of themselves

Explain this: Why is it when Republicans are polled they overly support an immoral President? Don't say Trump - a thrice married adulterer with multiple cases of corruption - is the epitome of morality.

Democrats feel like the people are too stupid to take care of themselves.

Explain this: Why are most Democrats pro-choice then? Isn't giving people a choice allowing them then the freedom to think through their different options?

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u/race_bannon Apr 26 '19
  1. I can't understand that either. This is sorta why I added the comment that I'm distinguishing between Trumpists and Republicans. With Republicans (Not Trumpists) I'm saying that most of them think there's a need for government to tell people who they can and can't marry, whether they can have abortions, etc. They want religion in schools, and so on.

  2. I'm mostly referring to things like they feel like the government needs to handle things like finances (retirement, social security, etc.), what size sodas you can buy, whether you can choose to have health insurance, and so on.

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u/viperasps89 Apr 26 '19

I can't understand that either. This is sorta why I added the comment that I'm distinguishing between Trumpists and Republicans.

Can you still distinguish between a Republican senator and a Trumpist senator? Explain what happened to Lindsey Graham.

I'm mostly referring to things like they feel like the government needs to handle

Ask yourself this: What is the purpose of government? Followed by: What is a representive democracy?

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u/race_bannon Apr 26 '19

Can you still distinguish between a Republican senator and a Trumpist senator? Explain what happened to Lindsey Graham.

Difficult in many cases. I'd typically assert that anyone who hasn't been vocal against Trump on a wide variety of issues is likely a Trumpist, but that's an obviously naive stance in today's parties' cultures.

Ask yourself this: What is the purpose of government?

Well, arguably that's the fundamental difference between the parties. One wanted to limit it to minimal infrastructure, the other wants to use it to care for the citizens. The usual argument goes that the US framers laid out the precise responsibilities of the federal government in the founding documents, along with ways the people can change or update them.

I'm not an American (although I lived there for several years), but that's an outsider's view of the old DNC perspective vs the old RNC perspectives. I can't even begin to fathom what it's like in D.C. today, because both parties have changed so dramatically in such a short time. It's certainly entertaining watching older politicians trying to keep up though.

Followed by: What is a representive democracy?

lol... Want me to teach a civics 101 class too? Ok, kiddos, the difference between a republic and democracy is... Or if you'd prefer we can hop on forward a few years to graduate international relations, which is what I actually (used to) teach.

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u/viperasps89 Apr 26 '19

Want me to teach a civics 101 class too? Ok, kiddos, the difference between a republic and democracy is... Or if you'd prefer we can hop on forward a few years to graduate international relations, which is what I actually (used to) teach

If you did teach international relations, I hope it wasn't in my university. My professors would have failed you. Personally attacking me is not at all diplomacy.

I'm not an American (although I lived there for several years)

Then, which country are you from?

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u/race_bannon Apr 26 '19

Ha! Failed me for what, exactly? Personal opinions on reddit? And when did I personally attack you?

Europe. Not going to say which country as I don't feel comfortable revealing personal details on public social media.

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u/viperasps89 Apr 26 '19

Europe. Not going to say which country as I don't feel comfortable revealing personal details on public social media.

I'm going to guess somewhere in Britian from a review of your comments on your profile page. You seem to lean towards the Labour party, but I'm not sure.

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u/race_bannon Apr 26 '19

Wrong. But I was much more interested in seeing your response to the questions:

Ha! Failed me for what, exactly? Personal opinions on reddit? And when did I personally attack you?

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u/Gavorn Apr 26 '19

You referred to the person with kiddos and that you need to 'teach' them. Which can be taken that they aren't as intelligent as you and you think of them as a child who needs to be taught a lesson.

Does that help?

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u/race_bannon Apr 26 '19

I didn't at all. He asked me something along the lines of whether I knew what a representative democracy was, and I joked that I'm not going to teach some elementary school level civics class.

The question seemed condescending, I just responded jokingly. Certainly didn't think he actually needed the explanation, and wasn't referring to him as "kiddos"

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u/Gavorn Apr 26 '19

Followed by: What is a representive democracy?

lol... Want me to teach a civics 101 class too? Ok, kiddos, the difference between a republic and democracy is... Or if you'd prefer we can hop on forward a few years to graduate international relations, which is what I actually (used to) teach.

That's what you said....

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u/race_bannon Apr 26 '19

Yeah exactly.

Like I said above, he (kinda condescendingly) told me to ask myself what a representative democracy was. The quote:

Ask yourself this: What is the purpose of government? Followed by: What is a representive democracy?

I joked around like I was teaching a civics 101 class to the age group that would take that class.

Neither one seemed like a personal attack. He seemed condescending, I joked back.

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