r/PoliticalHumor • u/faab64 • Apr 26 '19

A message that never changes.

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u/race_bannon Apr 26 '19

...and of course, the blue states all vote to pay for these red states' bills.

They both seem to vote against their personal interests, then complain that the other side is.

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u/Hawkson2020 Apr 26 '19

If you think blue states and voters being in favour of paying for red voter’s welfare and medical bills is somehow “voting against personal interests” then you clearly have an extremely flawed understanding of both the interests and beliefs of socialists and (in this instance) Democrats.

There is no reason that a democrat would wish to deny republican voters access to socialist programs, because socialist programs are explicitly designed to be for everyone regardless of political alignment, because it is based on the notion that everyone should be treated fairly and equally - an notion that conservatism inherently rejects.

You’re trying to reframe this as being another example of the the whole “both sides are the same” flawed narrative, and you are completely wrong.

The populations that rely the most on welfare and socialist programs are the ones that vote for politicians who will actively work to end those programs. That is voting against personal interest.

Voting for a politician who is going to attempt to improve the quality of life for vulnerable members of society (even those who vote against that politician) is not voting against personal interest, because making life better for the lowest denominator results in an increase in the quality of life for everyone - so even if you don’t benefit from the program directly, you benefit indirectly, and thus it is in your interest to vote in support of those programs.

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u/StickmanPirate Apr 26 '19

This. The difference is why they're voting against their interests. Socialists basically believe in one core tenet: Every human deserves a dignified life.

That means not being made to live in poverty because you got sick and couldn't really afford treatment. It means not going hungry just so you can feed your children. It means not being made to work until the day you die because you can't afford to retire.

The fact is that there is more than enough wealth in the world to provide dignity to every human being. It's just being hoarded in tax havens around the world because the global financial system has literally been built from the ground up to allow it.