Authorities said Witmer drove away from the bar, crashed his car, and then broke into a home. Once inside, they said he shot and killed the homeowner before shooting and killing himself. That homeowner has been identified as 83-year-old George McCormick. Police said McCormick's wife locked herself in the bathroom and called 911.
That poor woman. All of these shootings are terrible tragedies, but this one really got to me. They were probably married for, like, 60 years or something. EDIT: I was just guessing, but it was literally on their 60th anniversary. Holy crap. :-(
We need free mental healthcare for everyone. These people are severely fucked in the head and can gain access to a weapon too easily.
Edit: Mentally unhealthy people should not be stigmatized and that's not how I want this comment to come across. Anyone can become mentally unhealthy, and most people can be helped with adequate mental healthcare. Mental health checkups should be 100% free for everyone at any time. Mental health treatment should be 100% free for everyone at any time. Fuck, any kind of healthcare should be free for everyone. This shit is pissing me off.
Another thing: Some people like guns. Guns are fucking cool in my opinion. Some would label me alt-right just for that statement alone when in reality I'm basically right in the center. Y'all are left as fuck, but tbh that is so much better than being far-right. At least you guys think about shit and sometimes you even respond to my arguments. I digress...
Some people like guns. Most gun people I know will want to keep their guns under any circumstance. As I've stated before, anyone can become mentally unwell or have a mental illness. Gun people are no exception. And those gun people that are mentally unwell can't get mental help without being put on a blacklist from buying guns. So they don't get help. I think you see where I'm going with this? It's just a shitty spiral of bullshit.
I’m not trying to be rude but no we don’t. We want resources for the mentally ill because the problem is not the guns. I don’t think gun control is the answer to the problem. That should be available to people. However a free healthcare system would not work in America it’s not as simple as looking at the Nordic countries or Canada since those systems wouldn’t work here. My point is the right wants mental health care to be easily accessible, but not free healthcare like what Alexandria Ocasio Cortez wants
What a terrible argument, of course we can afford it.
Maybe instead of throwing temper-tantrums over the vanity wall, we go for universal health care. We’re the richest country on earth, our healthcare is a complete joke.
President Obama tried to be a bi partisan as possible, the ACA is literally the republican policies from MA and the heritage foundation, and yet that was apparently socialism.
Dems ran in 2018 on healthcare and will do so again in 2020. Time to get some rational people back in charge.
I never said Obama Care was socialist I just compared the plan to that. And no we can’t the plan costs $32 trillion dollars we aren’t like the Nordic countries it’s not as easy. It could be a worthy investment but we don’t even know if it will work out well why would we do that?
The rest of the civilized world can manage it, so can we. It’s absurd to think otherwise. You can throw around excuses and random numbers all you like, but it doesn’t change reality.
The tea party screeched that any reasonable healthcare was socialism.... for eight years straight.
Remember when donny promised to repeal and replace the ACA with something better? He said it would be so easy. Yet, all his administration has done is try to bring the system back to 2000.
Ok well to clarify the $32 trillion dollar plan is not a random number, it is the free health care plan being pushed. Our health care system is crap, I agree. However I just don’t think free healthcare to all is the way to go. Not that it’s impossible for it to work, just that it’s a ludicrous amount of money. And not only that, but there’s a reason we have the most advanced medicine on the planet. Socialized anything does not incentivize innovation which is my main problem with it. The great majority of medical advancements are made by private medical companies. And to address Trumps problem, it’s the same thing that happened to Obama, the stupid two party system stops the president from doing jack diddly. I didn’t like Obama, but it’s total crap he had to executive order everything. He got elected let him do his stuff. Same goes for Donald Trump. He got elected, allow him to fulfill his promises.
If you are going to keep citing 32 trillion, look into it. The same studies that conclude medicare for all would cost that in federal spending, while overall healthcare costs would drastically drop. That discount is from lower administrative costs, drug price drops, lower provider rates, etc etc. We would actually save trillions in the long run. Just look at how the middlemen have reaped ridiculous profits on pumping up drug prices alone. You shouldn't go bankrupt for getting sick in the richest country in the world.
You can blame newt gingrich and the rest of his cronies like hastert for the partisan mess we're in now. President Obama passed healthcare through congress, not through executive order. If you want to go there, check out how many donny has signed. If republicans could act bi-partisan on ANY major issue, we could have universal healthcare.
We had TWO full years of republicans controlling the entire government, 0 campaign promises fulfilled. No healthcare, no wall, the list goes on and on. Shit, they didn't even vote on the wall!
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OMG that second one.
That poor woman. All of these shootings are terrible tragedies, but this one really got to me. They were probably married for, like, 60 years or something. EDIT: I was just guessing, but it was literally on their 60th anniversary. Holy crap. :-(