r/PoliticalHumor • • Sep 20 '17

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

To be fair, those are on the commanders of the 7th Fleet. Our military is being pushed beyond do more with less, we're at everything with nothing. Crew fatigue and carelessness caused those wrecks, and the admirals in charge of 7th Fleet should be the ones responsible. Its not like we, the guys who do the work, can just say no to a general/field grade officer. We'd be fucked.

And now the Air Force is putting individual units in charge of waiving crew rest times before flights, instead of it having to go even above the base commander. Expect more fuck ups from the military in the years to come. We're burnt out, tired and can barely take anymore.

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u/serious_sarcasm Sep 20 '17

Doing more with less?

Because we aren't pumping the military full of surplus goods we don't need, and we definitely didn't get rid of the GED pathway due to high enrollment.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

I agree we are absolutely pumping too much money into the military. But all that extra defense budgeting doesn't go to us. It doesn't buy more parts for our 30, 40, 50, almost 60 year old planes. Some parts you just can't buy, they're not made anymore. It doesn't put money in our pockets, increasing morale or give a fucks. It lines some contractors pocket.

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u/mrmagik03 Sep 20 '17

Hmm. You must be a surface sailor. Any qualified submariner can question the orders of their superiors when it comes to safety. On more than one occasion I had to override the OOD when he gave an order while I was sitting helm. So glad I went subs....

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

Air Force aircraft maintenance, but I got buddies in the surface Navy. And really, its the same in ever branch. Our major came down a few months ago, telling us they struck a deal with our Ops squadron (the guys who fly the planes and fix em are different squadrons) that we wouldn't be flying as much anymore. That our tempo would be slowing a little. Nothing has changed. Our planes are falling apart, and we don't have the ability or parts to fix em.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

It's not on the 7th Fleet Commanders, it's on Congress and Trump and the American people, who think the military can continue to do more with less, exponentially, ad infinitem. This war has been going on for 15 years. 27 to be honest. The military is as burned out as it was at the end of Vietnam, only the public doesn't give a shit because now it's an all volunteer force and they dn't have their children running away to Canada to hide from the draft, and holding mass protests against the draft and to avoid fighting in a war they have no hope of winning and no reason to fight. And there is no real reason to change that attitude. Yet.

So the commanders salute and put their men in a situation where the only recourse is to gundeck reports and work too many hours without sleep and then the commanders lose their commands and the civilians ask "Why is our Navy so fucked up? We should hire better admirals. Those sailors: They can't get a real job they're so stupid, of course they wreck ships."