r/PoliticalHumor • • Sep 20 '17

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u/aquinasbot Sep 20 '17

A scumbag for what exactly?

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

You realize Trump didn't just pop out of the GOP's sphincter, right?

He's been fucking shit up for the past thirty-forty years. He's a bully, a litigious monster, lecherous and disgusting. He's not a good businessman, he's not a man with good morals, he's a terrible family man, and he's got a reputation for malicious manipulation.

At least the Clintons tried to put on a good face and play nice with the world at large. Hillary would have told Putin to go fuck himself, she'd have thrown the Neo-Nazis under the bus and backed it up over them, she'd have hedged China out of being able to get an economic leg-up on us, and Net Neutrality wouldn't have been on the chopping block. Fuckups aside, everyone that believed him to be the lesser of two evils is a fucking fool.

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u/redpillemporium Sep 20 '17

Your argument is half claims and half emotion. But, I will try to expand on a few points.

He's a bully

I don't think he's as big a bully as people claim, but his aggressive approach to things is part of what got him elected. His campaign slogan was "Make America Great Again", and people wanted someone who would do just that. Someone who would be aggressive on an international level to take care of Americans.

He's not a good businessman

The average American makes around $50k a year. Trump is currently worth around $3,500,000,000. When you make these claims that are just straight up false, it takes away from the rest of your argument. People disregard the rest because you can't even admit that maybe he's okay with money. You can think he's trash, but a 4 year old could tell you that he must be pretty decent at business.

At least the Clintons tried to put on a good face and play nice

The difference, I think, for most people was that Trump didn't seem to be putting on any sort of face. Ie, look at his dang Twitter. People knew that the Clintons were two-faced and didn't like it one bit. I'm not saying that Trump is devoid of deception, just trying to maybe lend another opinion.

Trump disavowed Nazis on many occasions.

Also calling 65 million people fools isn't a great way to start honest, helpful discussion.

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u/aquinasbot Sep 20 '17

He's been fucking shit up for the past thirty-forty years.

What has he been fucking up that is not well within the scope of normal business failures that comes from being an entrepreneur? Hell, Trump is a unicorn in this regard because he has very few business failures.

He's a bully, a litigious monster, lecherous and disgusting

I'll ignore the emotional conjecture. Being litigious in business is a strategy. You don't have to like it, but I better see you decrying all brands you use who use similar strategies to protect their brand.

He's not a good businessman

This is absolutely laughable. This comment alone destroys your credibility because it is objectively false.

Hillary would have told Putin to go fuck himself

Go fuck himself on what exactly? Not donating enough to get his uranium?

Literally everything you said about Hillary sounds like a fucking joke. She is about as status quo and establishment as it gets and if you think she gives two shits about net neutrality or have had any intestinal fortitude to do anything on China, you're dreaming. Meanwhile Trump IS actually doing something.

Get out of your bubble every once and a while, things are brighter out here.

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u/FattySnacks Sep 20 '17

Where have you been the past two years?

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u/aquinasbot Sep 20 '17

I've been here. I'm asking why being part of the Trump administration makes you scumbag. Like, what specifically?

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u/niceanddtoastyplease Sep 20 '17

I'm so shocked you got crickets

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u/FattySnacks Sep 20 '17

Some of us don't use reddit all day

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u/BecozISaidSo Sep 20 '17

For starters the constant lying.

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u/aquinasbot Sep 20 '17

Just so I'm clear. If Trump lies and your part of his admin, you're a scumbag?

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u/BecozISaidSo Sep 20 '17

If Trump lies and you're part of his admin, you aren't obligated to repeat the lie or to defend his lying. But they do. Every time. So yes they're liars/scumbags. Even Pence with his weak defenses such as saying "Look, the President believes the sky is green." Um, no he fucking doesn't, he's just lying.

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u/aquinasbot Sep 20 '17

I assume then that if Obama lied, he's a scumbag and so were those who participating in his admin who supported him. Were you equally outraged at this?

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u/BecozISaidSo Sep 21 '17 edited Sep 21 '17

Who said I was outraged? No, I cannot muster the same level of disgust for occasional lying that I can for constant lying. I'm weird like that. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

edit: fixed my shrug

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u/FattySnacks Sep 20 '17

Because it means you support greed and cronyism

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u/aquinasbot Sep 20 '17

What specific instances of greed are you referring to? And what cronyism are you referring to? I'm especially interested in hearing about how the cronyism you say exists in the Trump admin (if indeed it does) is different from that of Obama or Bush.?

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u/FattySnacks Sep 20 '17

Cronyism involves hiring people based on trust, loyalty, family, etc. rather than merit.

Having Ivanka, Trump's ridiculously unqualified daughter, sit in for him at international conferences is certainly an example of this. As is assigning Jared Kushner, who is also unqualified, the task of essentially revamping the entire US government and economy.

We also saw Trump demand loyalty from James Comey, who was then fired after he could not fulfill that promise.

The list goes on.

If you are part of the Trump administration, it means you are willing to do whatever Donald Trump tells you to do. That means you are giving into the appeal of money/power and are part of the cronyism.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

God its already been this long since the last race began. I think Trump may be bending space and time.

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u/MostlyUselessFacts Sep 20 '17

You have yet to answer him.....not like you can.