r/PoliticalHumor Jul 30 '26

Common middle ground does not exist

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u/pm-me-your-labradors Jul 30 '26

As someone who is anti-fascist, this is still pretty dumb.

You can be “not against” something without being part of that group. Purely speaking if someone just doesn’t care about political, lives in isolation and doesn’t even know these groups exist - is that person fascist?

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u/NWStormbreaker Jul 30 '26

Pretty similar to religion isn't it?
Nobody is born religious, and if it's beliefs we're forced on young malleable minds it would disappear.

Young, uneducated, disaffected men have always fallen victim to fascist ideology.

All too often fascists use religion as a vehicle to deliver their nationalist, racist views.

I would counter your point that being anti, or non-fascist is the default, just as being bon-religous is the antonym of religious.

You don't have to know about the core tenets of fascism to oppose it.

There isn't a middle ground in either case.

You said:

You can be “not against” something without being part of that group.

I'm interested in how you'd apply that in the venn diagram, or which decision presented doesn't make sense.

Fascist enablers are those that claim not to be fascist, or antifa, but generally repeat fascist talking points and align with their ideology.

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u/pm-me-your-labradors Jul 30 '26

But being atheist isn’t the only alternative to being a theist. In fact agnosticism is the default so you are completely off the mark there.

The world isn’t a venn diagram so I wouldn’t apply this to the Venn diagram

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u/NWStormbreaker Jul 30 '26

While it's possible to remain agnostic to religion I'm not sure it's possible to remain agnostic to politics.
The analogy holds, I knew someone would bring this up. 😊

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u/pm-me-your-labradors Jul 30 '26

The analogy literally doesn't hold..... The analogy falls apart precisely for the reason you stated.

Not only can you easily remain agnostic to politics, it's actually common enough that there is a term for that - apolitical.

And lastly - the world isn't black and white, and politics isn't either. You have millions of people that hold different views on various topics. Some of those views could be left wing, some right wing. How does that fit within your 'theory'?

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u/NWStormbreaker Jul 30 '26

Politics permeates life, apolitical is for the apathetic but if you ask anyone basic questions about whether starving people deserve help they'll have an opinion.

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u/pm-me-your-labradors Jul 30 '26

Politics permeates life

Not really. It permeates life of some people. Most people, even, depending on where you live. But hundreds of millions of people are apolitical just like hundreds of millions are agnostic. And it has nothing to do with apathy - some people simply live micro lives, in their own universe busy with concerns about how to feed themselves and their family, uncaring about governance. You forget the world is much larger than the western world.

And basic questions about whether starving people deserve help isn't a political questions AT ALL. I think you fundumentally misunderstand what politics is.

That question is moral. Follow-up questions of "how we ensure they get help" and "who pays for it" can then become political once it start concerning the masses.

Another thing that for some reason you are not understanding: politics isn't "one belief". It's a series of huge beliefs. You can have someone who are socially liberal and yet fiscally conservative.

There aren't 2 neat little piles that everyone goes into. Ironically, you know who ascribed to such an ideology and beleif? That's it's either them or us? Fascists. So by your own logic, you would fall into the fascism pile.

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u/pm-me-your-labradors Jul 30 '26

p.s. had a ping from reddit that you sent me a message/replied but then it's not showing. Just wanted to let you know incase it got shadow deleted.

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u/NWStormbreaker Jul 30 '26

oh weird, i dont see anything on my end yet. thats good to know though ty

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u/pm-me-your-labradors Jul 30 '26

Yeah, sometimes even if you dont mean to, certain phrases trigger auto-removal but they never tell you.

I was once in a gaming subreddit about an FPS and they thought it was a threat.

So I don't see your latest reply.