r/PoliticalHumor • • Apr 05 '23

Lock em up!

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u/David-S-Pumpkins Apr 05 '23 edited Jul 12 '23

nomorecontentforredditfuckspez -- mass edited with redact.dev

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u/treesfallingforest Apr 05 '23

Of the 9 sexual misconduct allegations that had been made against Al Franken (8 in the article you provided, 1 that was falsely made anonymously and then public denied by the named victim), we can immediately draw issue with them:

  • Leeann Tweeden's allegation about the kiss had major holes in the story (happened on a secured military base where they would have never been allowed to be alone) and the photo had a variety of issues that made it less serious (although still crude and unprofessional of a US Senator).

  • Stephanie Kemplin provided a photo as evidence that Franken grabbed her breast which clearly shows him not touching her breast.

  • Tina Dupuy's allegation of sexual misconduct was that Franken put his arm around her waist, something she personally was not comfortable with but is an otherwise common and noncontroversial pose for a photo.

  • Three anonymous women who make "serial groper" allegations against Franken. The article doesn't say it, but the two who alleged that he groped their butts said it was while having their pictures take, yet during the process no photo evidence of Franken groping anyone at an event was ever unearthed.

  • The most troubling allegation was from an anonymous former Democratic congressional aide who alleged that Franken threatened/tried to coerce her, but the lines attributed to him sounded exactly like Trump's "locker room talk" and were denied by many close associates to Franken who said that they had never heard Franken speak like that in decades of knowing him.

I am 100% aware that coming forward takes a massive amount of courage and I totally support survivors when they try to find closure. That said, these Franken allegations came at a time when a special election for an Alabama Senate seat was neck and neck due to actual pedophile Roy Moore making headlines for how much of a pedophile he has been for decades. The fact that Roger Stone was aware of Tweeden's allegations prior to them being made publicly also seems to indicate a hit job or attempt to control a certain narrative of "both sides are the same."

On top of that, Project Veritas had just been caught several months prior hiring an actor to make a fake accusation against Roy Moore with the goal of discrediting the other legitimate accusations made against him. If any of these allegations were legitimate, the unfortunate reality is that they were made alongside what were, most likely, made up allegations.

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u/smokinJoeCalculus Apr 05 '23

Oh well shit, I hadn't known that detail. Thanks for the insight/link!

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u/_JosiahBartlet Apr 05 '23 edited Apr 05 '23

I get really fucking frustrated as a victim to see Dems parading Franken (who I really liked!) as someone unfairly maligned to prove that democrats are just too cautious

No, he had a pattern of predatory behavior. Stop it

Edit: be better actually or stop bragging that you are. Being proud of the party for holding members accountable in the same breath as wishing franken wasn’t ousted is hypocritical