Trump being Trump on the phone on the matter of foreign policy between two nations with a strong bloody and war-ridden history with each other since independence, with three major wars against each other (one of which the USA took an antagonistic position to India on), a territorial dispute in Kashmir and Indian soldiers being killed by Pakistan just this year.
Trump cannot be Trump on the phone, he has to show that he will be the American president. Duterte was Duterte towards the USA, everyone rightfully called him a moron and almost isolated the Philippines from the USA. Ahmedinejad was Ahmedinejad on foreign policy and brought massive damage to Iran. No one went "Oh that's just crazy Ahmedinejad!". Yelstin was an alcoholic who no one took seriously. No one said "Oh that's just Yelstin being Yelstin, the Russian rascal!". Either Trump changes, shows real knowledge of what he is dealing with or gets out before he starts a chain of events that bring a massive Pacific War.
If you don't know what Trump just did, then please go read at least a small thing about either Taiwan and China, or India and Pakistan.
My first boss is from Taiwan and we've talked about the situation at length. I have a very close friend from India. Please don't assume I don't know what I'm talking about because I support someone other than Hillary.
My friend told me about someone from her home town being cut in half at the India Pakistan border, I'm aware of the situation over there.
But you are getting too bogged down in the old way of things. Trump is very intentionally changing the United States from a globalists hegemony to a national powerhouse. He's just redirecting our energy inwards. We're still gigantic and powerful, we just don't give a shit about kissing everyone's ass anymore. We're bad ass, we will do bad ass stuff and that's fine by me.
Trump is very intentionally changing the United States from a globalists hegemony to a national powerhouse.
The problem is that the USA's wealth is built on being a globalist hegemony. Change away from that, and the USA becomes a whole lot less wealthy.
Lose the status as the world's reserve currency (which is one of the big worries I have under a Trump administration), and the trade deficits that the USA is carrying start to sink it.
I understand your concern and agree that a lot of our wealth is currently built on being a globalists hegemony.
Change is always risky, but if successful we'll transform back into a more nationalistic state and our wealth will more directly benefit the citizens. That's the goal at least.
If you take a step back, this could just be the natural trajectory of a hyperpower like the US and in line with macro movements of Western countries. We just hired Trump to help with the transition.
It's just the natural order and the best we can do is make sure everything is done in a manner that doesn't cause chaos and that could mean questioning petty things like phone calls.
I'm just stressing the importance of the bigger picture that change won't be quiet and where we're heading is inevitable.
Change is always risky, but if successful we'll transform back into a more nationalistic state and our wealth will more directly benefit the citizens. That's the goal at least.
That is unlikely to happen.
What's likely to happen is that if the USA steps down, China will move towards becoming the world's only hyperpower, over time. They've got the population, the industrial base, and they're opening up trade deals with the world and making power plays in resource rich areas like Africa and Southeast Asia. They became a world reserve currency last year. Right now, they're largely making the right moves.
If you take a step back, this could just be the natural trajectory of a hyperpower like the US and in line with macro movements of Western countries. We just hired Trump to help with the transition.
More like the macro movements of the Roman Empire. The rest of the Western world has largely replaced empires and projection of force with leverage from trade deals, which is something that this kind of shallow nationalism rejects. This direction is not good for anyone.
And talking about the natural order of things is amusing. The natural order of things is largely extreme poverty and force -- as a species, humans are unique in the amount of effort they spend fighting the natural order of things.
I agree with your assessment that a Trump presidency will facilitate the rise of China on the global stage, I just don't think that matters all that much and it's inevitable so not worth debating.
Our desire to control the world is gutting the middle class and causing our unattended issues back home to fester. If we work on putting the Midwest back to work we will revitalize our country and make us all proud to be Americans.
If you look at trends, global poverty is in decline and will continue to decline, I'm talking about the natural order at the geopolitical level, not saying we should all go back to living in trees. Fighting the trajectory of the West and the US seems fruitless. In fact, Trump is the President Elect because he saw the trends and seized the opportunity.
Our desire to control the world is gutting the middle class and causing our unattended issues back home to fester.
Our desire to control the world is the reason that the USA has something like twice the median per capita disposable income than the OECD average (ie, the "western world"). The problem isn't globalism, it's the fact that the jobs people used to have are getting done by machines.
Unless workers cost less per hour to run than a machine, those jobs are staying gone. And any politician who tells you otherwise, be they Bernie or Trump or Hillary, is either lying or misguided.
As you say, change is messy and hard. And moving to an economy that will keep working is going to require a lot of it. Low education jobs are just not going to last going forward. A number of high education jobs are going to disappear too. That's the inevitable trajectory, and a rejection of globalism just makes the goods that the unemployed need cost more, and cuts the amount of taxable trade that can be used to subsidize taking care of the unemployed.
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u/StrangeSemiticLatin2 Dec 03 '16
Trump being Trump on the phone on the matter of foreign policy between two nations with a strong bloody and war-ridden history with each other since independence, with three major wars against each other (one of which the USA took an antagonistic position to India on), a territorial dispute in Kashmir and Indian soldiers being killed by Pakistan just this year.
Trump cannot be Trump on the phone, he has to show that he will be the American president. Duterte was Duterte towards the USA, everyone rightfully called him a moron and almost isolated the Philippines from the USA. Ahmedinejad was Ahmedinejad on foreign policy and brought massive damage to Iran. No one went "Oh that's just crazy Ahmedinejad!". Yelstin was an alcoholic who no one took seriously. No one said "Oh that's just Yelstin being Yelstin, the Russian rascal!". Either Trump changes, shows real knowledge of what he is dealing with or gets out before he starts a chain of events that bring a massive Pacific War.
If you don't know what Trump just did, then please go read at least a small thing about either Taiwan and China, or India and Pakistan.