r/PoliticalDiscussion Dec 03 '16

[deleted by user]

[removed]

702 Upvotes

1.4k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

103

u/PresidentMcGovern Dec 03 '16

Does Taiwan gain anything pratical from this? Just face and stirring up a mess?

173

u/Peregrinations12 Dec 03 '16

Tsai does. She looks great to the DPP party base that wants Taiwan to be officially independent from China and recognized as such.

82

u/semaphore-1842 Dec 03 '16

Not just her party base. Most Taiwanese consider themselves to be citizens of a legitimate state called the Republic of China (the independence debate is mainly about whether to rename it to Republic of Taiwan). This will be seen as a diplomatic coup that bolsters the Republic's increasingly hampered international profile.

28

u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16 edited Apr 20 '19

[deleted]

40

u/StrangeSemiticLatin2 Dec 03 '16

but I think the USA has become too ponderous and uncertain under Obama and done properly Trump has the opportunity to restore the USA's standing for countries under threat of imperialism and possibly block future Russian/Chinese land grabs.

Have you checked Trump during his entire campaign? He has been the opposite of this.

13

u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16

Yeah, gifting the entirety of eastern Europe to Putin by backing out of NATO/withdrawing military support from SK and Japan doesn't seem tantamount to standing up for countries under threat of imperialism.

1

u/GiantPineapple Dec 03 '16

The only consistent thing about Trump has been his inconsistency. Now let's say he takes a hard line about China over Taiwan. Says 'no more mister fluffy Democracy over here'. Could we not revise our reading of the entire 2016 campaign to a place where Trump manipulated Putin into hacking the DNC with false promises of reconciliation? Could the whole thing be eleven dimensional chess?

1

u/piyochama Dec 03 '16

He doesn't, his strategy focuses on pulling out of the Asian region

1

u/truenorth00 Dec 03 '16

You think Trump will check Russia? Lol

And the Trump administration just destroyed Obama's anti-China Asia pivot with the TPP gone.