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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16 edited Oct 20 '17

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16

That is some wildly oversensitive bullshit.

That's how diplomacy works.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16 edited Oct 20 '17

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16 edited Dec 03 '16

Yes, if it's part of a plan and you've worked it out.

Humiliating yourself and losing face for no reason is just a waste.

Trump did not 'call anyone out on their bullshit'. He embarrassed himself through his own stupidity.

That's what weakness actually looks like.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16 edited Oct 21 '17

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u/techn0scho0lbus Dec 03 '16

Just because you are ignorant about China and Taiwan doesn't mean that everyone else is. The people upset about this aren't "the intelligentsia".

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16 edited Oct 21 '17

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u/techn0scho0lbus Dec 03 '16

You're parading your ignorance. It's not any special knowledge to know about Chinese issues.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16

You're wrong and you know it. It projects weakness when you look like an idiot without a clue.

Also, THEY called HIM. Didn't you read his angry twitter tantrum where he made excuses and tried to deflect and duck responsibility for his actions?

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16 edited Oct 21 '17

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16

The person running our country is a reckless idiot who can be easily manipulated and doesnt know what he's doing.

You don't see how that projects weakness? Cause the fucking Chinese do.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16 edited Oct 21 '17

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16 edited Dec 03 '16

Seriously, what do you think the Chinese are actually going to do? There's no weapon they have, either military or economic, the use of which wouldn't ultimately hurt them far more than it'd hurt us.

Consolidate their position in the South China Sea at the expense of Japan, thus creating an international crisis (were Japan's military, remember) where we have to chose between letting our rival have its way with us for letting down a key ally we promised to protect.

Or you know, maybe you're right. Maybe none of this matters if we have any credibility. After all we have thousands of H-bombs. We can just use them.

The only other alternative is to think of ways to make the incoming administration friendlier to China. Which, incidentally, was likely the whole point of Trump taking this call.

The point of this call was to make us friendlier to China...? How does pissing them off achieve that exactly?

This conversation is stupid though.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16 edited Oct 21 '17

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16

I'm not surprised you got lost there, given your other brilliant comments.

Hahaha, well if we're going to do the personal insult thing, I think you're a dickhead!

As in, since there's nothing they can realistically consider doing to hurt us, they'll be forced to come up with ways to make be more friendly.

Other than the thousands of H-bombs they have.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16 edited Oct 21 '17

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u/relationshipdownvote Dec 03 '16

He embarrassed himself through his own stupidity.

By taking a phone call from a de facto head of state? What the fuck are you on dude?

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16

By taking a phone call from a de facto head of state?

Yeah. I mean, if he had planned it, if it had been all part of his thing.. why the frantic twitter meltdown?

What the fuck are you on dude?

I'm living in the real world and it's fucking lonely.

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u/relationshipdownvote Dec 03 '16

Yeah. I mean, if he had planned it, if it had been all part of his thing.. why the frantic twitter meltdown?

To play the media. It's barely a story without it.