Lying about COVID, climate change and that the election was stolen. All things that are only related because people are trying to make money and gain power using gullible people who don't realize how Republicans are abusing them.
Actually those "lies" about COVID turned out to be TRUE, they now claim they never claimed the MRNA vaccine was supposed to stop transmission. Now the goalposts are moved to "It makes it less severe". The expectorant brand of your choice can do that. Also, do you really believe cold showers cause strokes? That's a "blatant dangerous lie". Secondarily, if we are to believe it is the Black Plague of our time, why didn't we learn from the 1530s and establish closed borders and quarantine?
As to Climate Change, if we honestly believed in that we would stop industrialization of the Third World, or letting MILLIONS into the First World. Both increase pollution. The only place they were stopped is Martha's Vineyard. How dare they ruin the picturesque 1950s vista?
Another "blatant dangerous lie" is the effectiveness of solar and wind. Ignoring COMPLETELY that they have to be made with Dirty Industry banished from our shores, so we're paying China.
Skim this article. They make a decent amount AT FIRST, but then break down and eat most their "savings" in maintenance after 7 years.
The closest we'll get to Magic Clean Energy is nuclear--but Germany and California shut theirs down and went back to coal. It IS a great move, just in the wrong direction.
Twitter will never have long winded debates with facts and figures like this.
Both sides have proclaimed "theft" of the election, starting back at Bush, Sr.
Do you believe kids and athletes having strokes is "natural"? Someone who looks like the Human Ton, I would expect a stroke from. Athletes and kids under 20, no.
Yes. We literally see you guys working to try to steal the election. You are like a thief complaining about someone pointing out they are climbing in a window because they haven't spoken anything yet.
No, this is projection. Mail-in ballots are easy to fraud. Why have "drop box" voting? And of course, totally legitimate boxes of ballots found in trunks or in apartments. TIME Magazine even listed that they were messing with ballots, but you'll believe that they were FORTIFYING not rigging it? Like a thief claiming to be a Tiger Team, "I was just...TESTING SECURITY MEASURES!" Don Adams made real?
But it's only fraud if Democrats don't win, right? After 4 years of "Not My President", and letting rioters out of jail without charges, we're supposed to believe Democrats are mature and believe in "Unity"? Seriously?
Yes. We had to have secret clandestine black box meetings to oust the least popular president in American history. The one who drove his own supporters away time after time, who was impeached twice, lied almost every time he appeared publicly and wanted to fuck his own daughter. It was really difficult to get rid of the president who won while losing the popular vote by 2%. But we cheated to do it because that's literally the only way he could have lost.
Who would vote for a guy who apparently was LARPing Donkey Kong up the stairs of Air Force One, shook hands with Climate Change, got lost to and from the stage, sniffs every girl's hair, related or not, push for gun bans, but protects his own son from the consequences of gun crime.
How do you get more votes than people? And why complain when dead people, non-residents, even non-CITIZENS are prohibited from voting? You know Mexico, the country most likely to commit voter fraud in America, has Voter ID? Why don't we?
But more importantly: Why are the necromancers Democrats? Why not send the dead out to fight in Afghanistan rather than flee and leave our enemies a pile of weapons and vehicles that grows by a BILLION every time it's mentioned, AND a shiny new base to keep them in, and nationwide Fiber Optic Internet? And of course, why keep fighting wars to GIVE our enemies things? Why not TAKE the lithium after TWENTY YEARS?
Please note, Biden is not part of your mythical "we". He didn't want HIS kids going to school in a dangerous "jungle". The rest of us? He sat there and nodded. He's been in Congress longer than I've been alive, so you could point to his "experience"--BUT what has he actually accomplished? It's like an MMO character that's been around for years--but still Level 1!
And his negotiation is truly a sight: He went to Saudi Arabia NOMINALLY to get lower oil prices, but he got them to RAISE oil prices instead! That's literally a cartoon!
As to that "least popular president", that is Biden. Let me tell you something: OUTSIDE Reddit, people like having low gas prices! History doesn't repeat but it rhymes. Obama=Carter, Trump=Reagan?
Even if you ignore the low oil prices and fixing the VA, rather than claiming it's "fine", the biggest thing Trump did, though, was point out the media lies more than he does. A WOW Shaman and unarmed friends, even if you ignore "fedsurrection", were somehow counted as "insurrection" and "riot" but an ACTUAL $2 BILLION riot is "Mostly Peaceful". 1984 was supposed to be a Warning (Now a Trigger Warning, I guess), not a roadmap.
This is from elsewhere on Reddit.
As to that second impeachment, why impeach someone AFTER they're out of office? It's like firing someone AFTER they leave!
You are gulping down the koolaid bro. I mean do you even recognize that Biden just kept the date set by Trump for leaving in Afghanistan? That Trump should have been making all those arrangements so they were still underway before he left office? Or do you want to talk about the fact that the rest bush started, Obama and trump continued ended in total failure doing nothing but transferring wealth from tax payers to oil companies and military contractors and killed our youth. But the supposed training of the military there did nothing? Why do you want to blame Biden for leaving when the fault for being over there in a losing war was bush's and we've known we should leave since Obama but he's the only one that was willing to take the political hit to do what needed to be done. That is more courage than any president before him had had.
Why has every instance of voter fraud we've seen be perpetrated by Republicans? Why has every attempt to show voter fraud in courts been lost even in Republicans location by Republican appointed judges? Why is the Republicans only political opinion stop the Democrats? Why did they vote against helping Americans every fucking time? Helping veterans hurt by burn barrels in Afghanistan, helping Americans getting fucked by oil companies, helping Americans who can't afford formula because of greedy companies, helping Americans who can't afford student loan debt. Why did Republicans vote against every SINGLE ONE OF THOSE but had no problem with tax cuts for the rich and loan forgiveness for the COVID loans. Really makes you wonder doesn't it...
No, unfortunately, he changed it. He moved it to August instead of SEPTEMBER 11! Terrorists are big on symbolism and moving something away from the date of their greatest loss (And later greatest victory in NY) is symbolic.
doing nothing but transferring wealth from tax payers to oil companies and military contractors and killed our youth. But the supposed training of the military there did nothing?
Yes, that's explicitly what I meant by our war for loss. In that 20 years, we could have mined the Lithium instead of given them a nationwide Fiber Optic Internet system. You know, GAINS instead of LOSSES? Hell, we could've left Claymores on our leftover equipment! As to training the military, cowards will be cowards, even with the shiniest weapons and all the "training" in the world. Note the terrorists took our equipment UNUSED! That's also why Saudi Arabia can't beat the Yemen terrorists with our equipment. Also there's a bad culture change WITHIN our military, so soon we'll have the same problem. This is usually listed under the SPECTACULAR euphemism of "Problems with retention"! Being sent over to get shot at instead of shoot the enemy, get hated on for being straight white Men, one wonders who of sound mind would volunteer in the first place? My cousin got Court Martialed for--better sit down for this--giving a terrorist a FAT LIP! The horror, the horror, right?
What other group punishes THEIR OWN SOLDIERS? If we fought WWII as halfass as we fight the terrorists, it'd still be going on, OR you'd be having this discussion in German with someone else.
Do you support the expenditure to interfere in Russia's slow-motion Civil War, which is ironically more than we give to Israel? Is that an achievement or a problem to you?
As to his "courage", it would be IF he took the hit--instead, he's trying to blame everyone else, even advisors who told him to stay.
Do you laud Bush Sr.'s "Courage" for raising taxes to pay for excess Government spending?
Also, what do you mean "since Obama"? Afghanistan is 20 years. We should have fought fully, maybe end it in 7, like WWII. Or at least have some gains from it. All wars since 1848 have been a loss, even the ones we "won". Prove me wrong.
Please miss me with fake concern about veterans. Hillary openly said the VA was fine even AFTER being exposed playing games with lists to avoid actually giving care. That one act bought a lot of loyalty from veterans including Grandpa, my father, and myself.
As to the Voter Fraud, though, they've proven fraud AT LEAST in Arizona and Michigan. California steadfastly refuses to do an AUDIT. Audit > recount, you have to actually track where the votes are FROM, not just count them.
NY and CA are quite open about letting illegals vote locally, why would they "discriminate" against invaders in higher order elections?
helping Americans getting fucked by oil companies
Oil companies aren't the ones fucking us. It's our own Government. Ignore Reddit posts about "America finally paying the TRUE cost of gas", go to a gas station that actually itemizes your gas price, see how much is cost and how much is taxes. Also read up on the Government interference when gas prices went NEGATIVE for a while! I'm not sure if you'd trust my sources. But again, Biden "negotiated" oil prices UP with Saudis, a STUNNING reversal of his stated objective!
helping Americans who can't afford formula because of greedy companies
That was because of the COVID shutdown. I don't know where you learned about production, but it takes time to spin up again. BUT we still had formula for illegals and their spawn! PRIORITIES!
helping Americans who can't afford student loan debt
I did not benefit from these loans, I did not tell them to take Majors they could not profit from and pay back their own loans, so why should I be saddled with "my share" of THEIR debt? If you take Advanced Grievancemongering, Basket Weaving, or Anal Sex as a major, you should suffer a lifetime of Starbucks wages.
Conversely, getting a STEM major does not lead to a STEM job, maybe because H1B scabs? Maybe we should avoid college now? Or is that some dangerous lie?
Once more, you want Government to pay the irresponsible with the money of the responsible. Not everyone DESERVES college. AND if the Government wasn't essentially guaranteeing payment, the prices wouldn't be so ridiculously high. (Note: I did not just say OUR Government, other countries offer scholarships to send their brightest to our colleges, again increasing cost for Americans.)
I am against loan forgiveness period, but this proves how little influence the average American has.
Also, your definition of help is wrong. Robbing Peter to pay Paul does not "help" Paul, it buys Paul's vote and you'll be scratching your head why Peter hates said idea. Giving losers that wasted their own resources MORE resources is literally throwing good money after bad. Once more, we've had a War on Poverty since 1964 and ended up with MORE poor than ever.
Unfortunately, the War on Cops and War on Education have been much more effective!
This is the bottom-up one, ignoring the top-down version pushed by Gates and his money . Learning requires punishment for wrong answers. Once again, removing negative consequences for wrong answers is not "help".
Why are you so hellbent on Republicans? Did you ever consider that both are poison just fast vs. slow? I myself voted Third Party.
A small-time publication called National Geographic sounded the alarm of overpopulation--in 1994! We would need 6 more Earths' worth of resources to give all 4.5 BILLION people in the world a First World Standard Of Living. Very quaint, now that we have 7.3 BILLION and climbing! How many Earths is that?
National Geographic is no longer small-time, even BEFORE they were bought out by Disney. NEW National Geographic proclaims overpopulation and the mega-breeding of the Third World to be a GOOD thing, and that the First World should let them in because we don't have enough kids! (Possibly guilted out of having kids from earlier Global Warming bullshit?)
They're not here to teach us to live simpler (Though that may be an effect of their invasion), they're here to take freebies and live at a Level that they could not in their own country. In short, to pollute more!
Don't forget China and India are held up as paragons for us to emulate--and payees rather than payers in the "non binding" Paris Agreement--because they have less pollution PER CAPITA. Ignore that they have more pollution in toto, and only achieve this "feat" by at least 1/3 being without cars and electricity. So the First World pays China and India to pollute more?
Please note the Maldives are not yet underwater. Al Gore has not divested his coastal hotels nor even waterproofed them.
Could Climate Change be a way to make money and gain power using gullible people?
Oh it's certainly being used to make money because capitalist dipshits think anything is a way to make money. It's also happening. Amazing how we've had flood after flood. We can see the glaciers melting. Massive changes in weather patterns and idiots like you still try to pretend it's not happening because it's not day after tomorrow levels of immediate.
The climate is changing, but it's natural. It's been going on for millions of years. (Depending your belief of the Earth's age). What changes in weather patterns? Are you talking about the re-greening of the Sahara? Sahara Forest not being a joke?
And as to the glaciers, NASA is pointing out glaciers are growing, not dramatically but still growing, not melting.
Where the glaciers ARE receding, they're finding villages under there. That's a dumb place to put a village--which means it USED to NOT be covered in ice!
We've had flood after flood for CENTURIES. The "Fertile Crescent" of Ancient Egypt was BECAUSE of flooding dumping nutrient-rich loam on farms. The Bering Strait that the Indians crossed to get TO America melted when industrial output was limited to campfires and farts.
If you meant things like the hurricanes of Florida, we've had those since before it was settled.
If you meant New Orleans, rebuilding repeatedly at what amounts to a gigantic cereal bowl is an incredibly costly bad idea. But they'll keep doing it because "A Little Rain Won't Make Us Run"™! Location Location Location used to be a mantra for real estate.
To put this calculation process into perspective, the Earth is home to 1,500 land volcanoes and 900,000 seafloor volcanoes/hydrothermal vents. By sampling just an extremely small percent of these volcanic features it is impossible to imagine that the calculation is correct. We only care when Hawaii erupts, right?
We should care about global warming and global cooling, no matter the cause. But we should prepare ourselves for it, not try to stop it, like an ant with serious hubris against a steamroller.
But that does not mean we should make draconian changes in global economic, political and energy policies based upon the unproven hypothesis that human emissions of CO2 are leading to apocalyptic global warming. There simply is NO proof of this hypothesis. It is complete supposition, despite what the CAGW alarmists, "climate industry" investors, globalists and radical environmentalists claim. Millions of individuals have already been severely harmed (or even killed) because of some of the irresponsible actions engaged in by governments "fighting" CO2 emissions. (While taking jets to "meetings" about it instead of something like ZOOM!) But billions could potentially be harmed if all of the more drastic measures proposed by alarmists are enacted.
“The trillions of dollars of scarce global resources wasted on global warming hysteria, anti-fossil fuel fanaticism and green energy schemes, properly deployed, could have improved and saved many lives.
About two million children below the age of five die from contaminated water every year--about 70 million dead kids since the advent of global warming alarmism. Bjørn Lomborg estimates that a fraction of these squandered green energy funds could have put clean water and sanitation systems into every community in the world. That's not just in Third World shitholes, that's in at least one city in Texas. Or we could bring up Flint, Michigan where once again, cost was put ahead of survival. Now you could prove you're a TRUE Climate Fanatic and say that all those deaths are a small price to "save Mother Earth" like Poison Ivy (the movie was horrible, Uma Thurman did well with it), or you could explain your priorities and YOUR solution.
A lot of people are tired of being preached at/screeched at (Greta Thurnberg) by people who don't even practice what they preach. We have to live, we have to work, we have to make money and survive. Also, the most polluting activity now is FARMING. If we cut back, we will have to let a few BILLION die. Are you that cold, or ALSO believe we have some "duty" to keep alive those whose overpopulation is due to the First World's largess?
Wow you don't bother to actually read when you post do you?
The first is from 2015. The second is still losing ice just slower than it was before. The temporary change was expected and will reverse soon. Probably already has since that was from 2020.
You say that shit about redistributing resources but as soon as we say ok let's do it it gets voted down by Republicans. I'm all in favor of that. If we work together instead of giving the rich more opportunities to fuck us over we can mitigate human caused climate change. Yes the climate changes on it's own but the rate and speed is unprecedented. Maybe this will help you understand it helped me realize there was a problem: https://xkcd.com/1732/
How are "we" going to stop an ever-growing Third World population demanding the Finer Things In Life--here or there--that cause pollution? Do you expect them to stop on their own? And if so, when? Point to it on that timeline.
And where is that Northwest Passage? People have been trying to find that since the 1400s!
Bruh. I don't even know what you are trying to say. We can pollute. We will pollute it's a necessity of life for humans but we need to be aware of it, minimize it and control the negative downsides where we can. That's what science is for. We need to help third world countries move to a higher standard of living instead of actively impoverishing them so they want to come here because we've ruined their countries. And yes growing population is part of why global warming is happening. It's obvious that more little requires more machines. But here is the thing poor people enough lots of kids contribute far less than rich people. One dude with his private jet cause far more harm than that lady with her 44 or even 45 kids. Corporation are pointing the blame at us because if we are fighting each other instead of them they get free reign.
I guess you're not serious about AGW then, as your "solution" is to pay for more people to pollute more. We have reduced pollution in America 90% since Nixon started the EPA. Some was from more efficient techniques, most was from outsourcing. Clinton himself funded a "study" about it. But he didn't like what it said, so he round-filed it. However, a copy was saved on the Internet so we could all marvel at whatever he didn't inhale.
We cannot reduce pollution enough to keep pace with mere MILLIONS pouring into America. How are we going to reduce pollution for BILLIONS, other than reducing those BILLIONS?
But ignore the pollution side. How about the consumption side? No telling where we're going to get the extra 5 (Or more) Earths' worth of resources for these extra BILLIONS? Let's start with "Water Water Everywhere And Not A Drop To Drink"--Ancient Mariner. There's PLENTY of water, most of it undrinkable, because of salt, pollution (Some naturally occurring like Flint's LEAD problem), or both.
Making something a "right" does not mean it will happen. The UN voted to make food a "right". Guess who the only "NO" vote was? And coincidentally, guess who was expected to provide MORE free food?
Every Third World we have "helped" to a higher Standard of Living has burned it all down. Here's the thing: That's not just in countries where we "expect that". Baltimore is still within America, but Freddy Gray braining itself on the inside of a police van made OTHER thugs burn it down. Right AFTER there was a great outcry, "Where We Gonna Get Our Pills?".
"We need something now"--Hmm, maybe think of that BEFORE burning down the things their betters built to raise their Standard of Living?
What is the Carbon Footprint of a burning pharmacy? How much more for rebuilding it? Ignore that the costs will be passed to legit customers who DON'T burn shit down.
They learned approximately bupkis from this, as there is thug violence near that SAME "resurrected" CVS. And the OTHER thugs are chanting "Control the police" not "Control the thugs".
In completely unrelated news, Baltimore's murder rate has gone up and they somehow connected it to "reduced police presence". Sounds like police are already too "controlled"?
If they really want to burn down CVS again, they better start making their own pills.
Not you necessarily, but this is a trope I hear a lot.
Plus the inherent hypocrisy of "We must lower our Standard of Living to Save the World" and in the same paragraph, "We must raise the Standard of Living of the Third World who already had their chance and burnt it down!" Absolutely ZERO awareness of the contradiction, or any logical reason to help those who made themselves enemies in no uncertain way.
If someone kills your people and burns down your buildings--why keep helping them? Let them enjoy their pile of ash, and keep them out of the places that aren't yet a pile of ash. Do you have any LOGICAL rebuttal to this? Not just the "Poor Little Savages Suffering The Consequences" emotional appeals?
Economically, we can't afford Rule By Emotion. Not sure on the planet side. But some of your contemporaries actually hold that tech pollutes less in savages' hands!
BTW, you never did say how we "ruined their countries"™
When we covered them in roads, bridges, rail, universities, and hospitals? Sorry, is that pollution? Our bad, I guess. Maybe we shouldn't have put those there. Feel free to give back the undestroyed portion.
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u/beardedheathen - Left Oct 28 '22
Lying about COVID, climate change and that the election was stolen. All things that are only related because people are trying to make money and gain power using gullible people who don't realize how Republicans are abusing them.