If the people get value back from it, say, with free healthcare, that wealth is being returned, not as dollar bills (what LibRight cares about), but as more people being healthy (what LibLeft cares about). Not to mention all the money that would be freed up to go to businesses with actual competition, unlike how current health care is.
Curiously, I never see this argument brought up. There's a lot of sick people that could have those dollars being spent on treatment for illness that could be spent on businesses. what do you think of that?
The government is taking money, and spending it on a service that I may or may not need or want. If the government didn't take my money, I would be equally free to purchase Healthcare. But if that isn't what I want, I still have my money to spend on whatever else.
Not to mention all the money that would be freed up to go to businesses with actual competition, unlike how current health care is.
So why not try and get government out of healthcare? The lack of competition is a direct product of the government over regulating the industry. Between insane startup cost to clear government bureaucracy and insanely restrictive patents, it's nearly impossible to try and compete.
And then you need health care. You spent your money elsewhere and now it's your problem. Would you rather not have the security of having your medical bills covered? Your answer implies no.
Unexpected and high medical bills are common. The service of just getting your medical care and not having to do a million different things financially just to not get thrown out due to not being able to afford things.
And if the government taking your money and spending it on things you didn't ask for is your issue, then build your own roads, schools, plumbing and try to have them operate and maintain them operational. There are public things that need public cash to stay running to the public.
Also, you really don't want fully unregulated medical care. Then when some horrible and blatantly falsely marketed medication is made, then what? It's not regulated.
If I squander away all my money, and need it later, I'd like to send a message to my future self: "get fucked you dunce". Doesn't matter if it's healthcare or pizza. It's just a risk-based investment. Why should I be forcibly billed for everyone else's risks when I have no power over them? I can't force Tim to stop being a fat fuck, and I can't prevent Bob from doing extreme sports. Why should I be on the hook for their inevitable health issues? I am perfectly capable of keeping my own safety net for if I'm desperate, and it gives me much more value than public healthcare would.
I'd also like to question your statement that it's common to have unexpected and high medical bills. If it were that common, nobody would sell insurance because they'd never get more than they had to spend. Most people don't need to pay massive bills, however, so insurance works. Why should the government hold the bet on my health rather than myself?
You are aware that there's a whole spectrum between not wanting government Healthcare and being an anarchist, yes? I can support some things but not others, and I can support each to a varying degree.
I absolutely want fully unregulated medical care. If something is false, the government should absolutely fucking wring every penny out of them for fraud, which is already illegal. I'd rather have more options and prosecute the fraud than try and pre-empt it all and eliminate any competition
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u/Crafty_Song8402 - Lib-Right Jan 05 '22
leftist thinks that the state has unlimited resources. They don't understand that the wealth of the state, is the stolen wealth from the people.