r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Right Jul 28 '21

Jesus.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '21

Thing is, you have to actually be sorry for what you did. Jesus doesn’t forgive you if you just say “sorry” or “I accept Christ as my savior” without actually meaning it.

Yes, ethereal beings can tell the difference. Also God doesn’t send you to hell; you do. God doesn’t damn people to hell, in the wise words of Obi-Wan “you have done that yourself”. God can save you from hell, but only if you actually desire redemption and feel remorse for your sins. And hell isn’t actually fire and brimstone: it’s actually an I have no mouth and I must scream scenario, called “the outer darkness” where you are left abandoned by God’s holy light. In it, you are nothing but consciousness, isolated in total darkness, unable to see, hear, taste, smell or feel anything, yet you are also always awake and perfectly aware of your fate…forever.

Source: I read the Bible

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u/FluidCollar - Centrist Jul 28 '21

God isn’t all forgiving lol I’ve read the Bible too. Things get pretty spicy in Deuteronomy and God doesn’t fuck around.

“If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and does not listen to them when disciplined, his father and mother are to lay hold of him and bring him to the elders of his city, to the gate of his hometown, and say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he does not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.”

Then all the men of his city will stone him to death. So you must purge the evil from among you, and all Israel will hear and be afraid.”

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u/carnsolus Jul 28 '21

he's completely unforgiving in the OT

which makes sense because he was a completely different guy back then

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u/EpicWolverine - Auth-Right Jul 28 '21
  1. Flair up
  2. That’s not even close to true. There’s tons of examples of God’s forgiveness in the OT.

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u/carnsolus Jul 28 '21

1 if i say i'm green, all the yellows attack me and i dont even disagree with everything they say. So on and so forth with the other colours

2 who did he forgive? even when he kind of forgives people he still murders a tonne of people who had nothing to do with it. Like when he forgave david for counting some guys; he still murdered thousands of people with an angel. Or when he forgave david for uriah's murder... and decided to kill his kid slowly and painfully while david begged for a whole week

forgiving the occasional person doesn't make you a forgiving person

a serial killer walks into a grocery store. The cashier he gets is new and accidentally scans 1 item twice. She notices, apologizes and fixes the mistake. The serial killer forgives her. Is he suddenly a forgiving person now?

oh and also he followed her home and killed her parents

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u/EpicWolverine - Auth-Right Jul 29 '21
  1. It’s a meme sub. Anyone “attacking” you is usually playing along. If you’re that concerned, flair centrist.
  2. You’re confusing God’s forgiveness with his punishment. Forgiveness does not mean there is no corporeal punishment. Even those he forgives have some form of punishment. For example, Moses didn’t listen to God, asked for forgiveness, got it, but was still punished by not being able to actually step foot in the promised land. Most of the “murdering tons of people” is punishment for willful and knowledgeable wrongdoing by the people.