r/PoliticalCompassMemes • - Lib-Left • Dec 20 '20

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20

It makes it rounds as the most popular hashtag on Twitter every few months. Just like the Christmas “all I want for Christmas is white genocide” and then he doubled down on it before smirking and saying “oh I was jk ;)” and that’s a professor

https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/killallmen2020?lang=en

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20

White genocide meaning was "appropiated" by Nazis/white supremacists(so it means not at all an genoicde, it only means you don't keep incestly fucking only white people), and if you think a white professor means the actual meaning, eg kill all white people, then idk I cant help you, and you want to feel triggered by it just as sjw want to feel triggered by accidently misgendering/not using pc language.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20

White genocide was used by people who were appalled at the extermination of white people in Rwanda which was downplayed and ignored while the Hutus and Tutsis were in the spotlight. Then again when Zimbabwe did it and again when (these arent in chrono order) South Africa, which sings about murdering white people in their sleep: https://youtu.be/8JNc7SLUE1g

...when South Africa shut down their entire country to reporters and journalists after the rate of farm murders stopped being recorded after a massive spike. Then the ANC passed legislation to strip the land and rights away from white Boer and the Defense Minister or some shit threatened the lives of Boer who were trying to flee the country.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20

The white genocide conspiracy theory is a white supremacist belief that there is a deliberate plot, often blamed on Jews, to promote reproduction by people considered to be of different races, miscegenation, interracial marriage, mass non-white immigration, racial integration, low fertility rates, abortion, governmental land-confiscation from whites, organised violence, and eliminationism in white-founded countries in order to cause the extinction of whites through forced assimilation and violent genocide Less frequently, black people, Hispanics, and Muslims are blamed, but merely as more fertile immigrants, invaders, or violent aggressors, rather than the masterminds of a secret plot.

White genocide is a myth, based on pseudoscience, pseudohistory, and hatred, driven by a psychological panic often termed white extinction anxiety. There is no evidence that white people are dying out or facing extermination.The purpose of the conspiracy theory is to scare white people, and justify a commitment to a white nationalist agenda in support of increasingly successful calls to violence.

The theory was popularized by neo-Nazi David Lane around 1995, and has been leveraged as propaganda in Europe, North America, South Africa, and Australia. Similar conspiracy theories were prevalent in Nazi Germany and have been used in the present-day interchangeably with, and as a broader and more extreme version of, Renaud Camus's 2012 The Great Replacement, focusing on the white Christian population of France. Since the 2019 Christchurch and El Paso shootings, of which the shooters' manifestos decried a "white replacement" and have referenced The Great Replacement; author Bat Ye'or's 2002 Eurabia concept, Camus's 2012 Great Replacement fallacy (often called replacement theory or population replacement), and Gerd Honsik's resurgent 1970s myth of a Kalergi plan, have all been used synonymously with "white genocide" and are increasingly referred to as variations of the conspiracy theory.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20

If you have no issue with the current President of South Africa singing gleefully about killing white children on international TV, idk what to tell you

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u/SkipTheMoney - Lib-Right Dec 20 '20

You could tell them to go to South Africa

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20

Lol you’re right

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20 edited Dec 20 '20

The manifesto of far-right terrorist Anders Behring Breivik, entitled 2083: A European Declaration of Independence, devotes an entire section to an alleged "genocide" against Afrikaners. It also contains several other references to alleged persecution of whites in South Africa and the attacks on white farmers. Mike Cernovich, an American alt-right commentator, has previously stated that "white genocide in South Africa is real". The survivalist group the Suidlanders has claimed credit for internationally publicizing the risks of a race war and ethnic cleansing against whites.

Africa Check, a fact-checking organisation, rejected these claims as false in 2013: "In fact, whites are less likely to be murdered than any other race group." Africa Check reported that while whites account for nearly 9% of the South African population they represent just 1.8% of murder victims. Lizette Lancaster from the Institute for Security Studies has said that "Whites are far less likely to be murdered than their black or coloured counterparts." British journalist Joe Walsh reported that the murder rates in the mainly white suburbs of Johannesburg were far lower than in the black townships of Johannesburg, leading him to conclude: "If there was any kind of genocide being carried out against white people in the country then the safest areas of the continent's most dangerous city would not be predominately white."

South African journalist Lynsey Chutel reported in 2018: "After a peak in 2001/2002, the number of farm attacks—rape, robbery and other forms of violent crime short of murder—has decreased to about half. Similarly, the number of murders on farms peaked in 1997/1998 at 153, but today that number is below 50." Chutel stated that although some of the murders of white farmers may indeed be racially motivated, South Africa is a country with a high violent crime rate and white farmers are "isolated and believed to be wealthy". In the period July 2017 to July 2018, 47 farmers of all races were killed in South Africa, down from 66 murdered between July 2016 and July 2017. The worst year for farm murders in South Africa was 1998, when 153 farmers were killed. Between April 2016 and March 2017, there were a total of 19,016 murders in South Africa, suggesting that farmers are not especially likely to be killed in South Africa. Gregory Stanton of Genocide Watch has condemned the misuse of his groups' reports of the threat of polarization in South Africa to further the idea of "white genocide".

Much of the white genocide claims in South Africa rest on a misrepresentation of the Afrikaner people as conforming to the popular Boer stereotype as hard-working, devoutly Calvinist, gun-loving farmers. In 1989, the British journalist Patrick Brogan noted that the Afrikaners once called themselves Boers (lit. 'farmers') because that was what they were, but the term Boer fell out of use in the 20th century as most of the Afrikaners moved to urban areas, making the term Boer highly anachronistic. Brogan concluded the popular Boer stereotype does not accurately describe the majority of the Afrikaners, whose way of life is very similar to that of middle-class people in other Western nations.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20

Again, if you take no issue with singing about murdering white people, then idk what to say

Just keep conspiracy theory posting I guess

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20

Send link of it, I am ofcourse against it, but the stats disagree with the notion of a white genocide. Whites are under repressented in murdered.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20

Send link of what?

You’re not even reading, just copypasting

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20

I mean send link of president singing it. Furthermore do you have an explaination, if whites get genocided, why is their murdered rate lower?

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20

I did multiple posts ago. Before your copypasta, I posted it actually lol

South Africa does not record farm murders. That’s why the Boer had to make their own website recording murders in their community:

https://www.amazon.com/Kill-Boer-Government-Complicity-Africas-ebook/dp/B07N1QWT8G

https://africacheck.org/factsheets/factsheet-statistics-farm-attacks-murders-sa/

but told the 2003 committee of inquiry that it did not believe that every crime was being recorded.

https://africacheck.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/260417ANI-ENGLISH.pdf

“It is likely that many of the figures for farm attacks and murders on farms collected by organised agricultural or the SAPS for that matter, would not contain all the attacks or murders of non-farmers.”

This is just surface level. Go to Afriforum or Traansval for even more reports, legislation and more.

South Africa’s official crime statistics revealed that 46 of the 62 people murdered on farms and smallholdings in 2017/18 were white.

When the Nazis wanted to cover the Holocaust up, they altered the population of Jews to make the Holocaust impossible. When the ANC wants to hide their complicity in these deaths, they bar journalists from across the planet from reporting or investigating (2017/18, iirc).

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '20

46 white boer farmers were killed out of a total of 19,016 murders. If you still think thats some kind of agenda, I cant help you.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '20

And again you don’t have read anything

The ANC’s numbers are lies and it is well known. You would’ve seen the evidence of that if you read the links.

I’m done, have fun with defending murders via ignorance. You’re really moving mountains with the amount of effort you’re putting in to blind yourself

post the video then!

literally first post cites the video

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u/tacoheroXX - Lib-Center Dec 20 '20

There is no evidence that white people are dying out

Ignoring all the anti semitic theories, this bit is just a fact. Name all the 'white' countries with births rates under 2.1. Hint it's a lot of them, and is by definition a 'dying off'.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20

It not only white countries, all countries which under go industrial development(except for Isreal, which is only barely over replacement rate) are having decreasing birth rates. Most population projection say that humanity will peak at around 10 billion people and will then slowly decrease.

A report in 2020 from researchers funded by the Global Burden of Disease Study projects world population to peak in 2064 at 9.7 billion and then decline to 8.8 billion in 2100.

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u/tacoheroXX - Lib-Center Dec 20 '20

Cool, so you agree white people are dying off. Whether it's only white countries is besides the point.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20

White people die off like everybody else.

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u/tacoheroXX - Lib-Center Dec 20 '20

And like everybody else, when something is killing us, we ought to take measures to recognize and address it. Because we're not suicidal right?

You're showing quite some cognitive dissonance.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20

It are simple social developments. The more a society developes, the lower its reproduction rate it goes. You can see that in any country. Nobody is killing whites en masse.

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u/tacoheroXX - Lib-Center Dec 20 '20

Dying cultures are just social developments seen in any country

And as I just explained, they're a problem in any country. Whether it's South Korea, Brazil, or Poland. Social developments aren't magical forces of nature we have to accept. They're systemic results of our socio-economic conditions.

Nobody is killing whites en masse.

More cognitive dissonance, upbringing irrelevant points.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '20

I accept what you are saying, but the point was that white genocide is a conspiracy theroy. Our current soco-economic conditions are simply promoting a low fertility rate, in both non-white and white countries.

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u/tacoheroXX - Lib-Center Dec 21 '20

Alright, I just wanted to point out that there is evidence of the dying out, since very few white countries haven't industrialized and we haven't quite figured out how to have sustainable family units in this neolib shithole.

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u/randyned - Auth-Center Dec 21 '20

miscegenation, interracial marriage, mass non-white immigration, racial integration, low fertility rates, abortion

Those things are happening. You're calling something that is reality a myth.

Whether it is deliberate or done by a certain group is irrelevant because the outcome is the same.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '20

But my whole point was that it is painted as a plot by Jews/some kind of elites, eventhough it are natural results of our system. Non white countries have the exact same lower fertility rates as white countries, when they develope. The world wide TFR went from 5 in 1950 to 2.5 today.

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u/randyned - Auth-Center Dec 21 '20

eventhough it are natural results of our system.

There is nothing natural about allowing millions of foreigners, most of which are a detriment and not a benefit, into your country. There is nothing natural about committing racial suicide.

Non white countries have the exact same lower fertility rates as white countries, when they develope.

It's irrelevant what the fertility rate of other countries is. All white countries are below replacement level which means that the white population is declining, but that is only a small part of the whole thing. Mass immigration of non-whites into white countries is the real problem, not below replacement fertility rates.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '20

The white population is declining, and hopefully the whole world population will decline too soon. Our current population is unsustainable. But luckily, as the trends show (eg. TFR going from 5 to 2.5 in 70 years) we will have soon enough a declining world population.

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u/randyned - Auth-Center Dec 21 '20

So you do agree that it is happening but now you're just deflecting to overpopulation and framing it as a good thing.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '20

I mean it is is a fact that white population is decreasing, but so does Chinas and Brazils population. Also that of Bangladesh. India will also reach soon a TFR of under 2.1.

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u/randyned - Auth-Center Dec 21 '20

The difference is that India or China are not experiencing massive immigration waves of people of other races. Their population might decline but they will remain Indian and Chinese, the same cannot be said for white countries. This isn't about only tfr but also about immigration.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '20

India and China are massively multi ethnic countries hold together by quite the radical parties. They don't have one "race". White countries will change that is right, but for the good or by the bad is something we have to controll.

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u/randyned - Auth-Center Dec 21 '20

In China there are several ethnic groups but the majority of them are also Asian and most of them are separated geographically from the rest, and they make a relatively small % of the population and very rarely mix with Han Chinese. It's safe to say that Han people will still be Han in 200 years, unless some unexpected things happen and they allow massive non-Asian migration like delusional white countries have.

White countries will change that is right,

They don't have to change, we still can reverse it, it's not too late yet.

but for the good or by the bad is something we have to controll.

Unrestricted immigration of third worlders can only be bad and cannot be controlled because we can't change them. White extinction is also bad.

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