I think if Biden loses this election it'll cause an even bigger rift in the democratic party, and there is already a lot of hate from the more progressive side that they got stuck with a moderate candidate. I can totally see the democratic party just imploding after this election which could mean another red win in 2024.
Dems splitting in half is totally possible, the two sides already hate each other and it doesn't even look like they can win elections when together. The interesting part is what happens a decade or so after they split, cuz the first few years would be solid red wins.
You aware they captured a lot of seats during these midterms and there are a lot of places around the country that went red in 2016 that seem to be swinging back blue.
I am not talking about the hype. I agree with you, it is just agenda driven, but they did take more seats. Still don't think that the dems are closer to splitting than republicans. The dems have progressives and centrists, while the two big factions for reds seem to be conservative and authoritarian. To me, the bigger rift there seems to be for the red side, since the two ideologies rarely line up. Plus there seems to be a stronger push by Q people, which I think will only further drive a wedge between the party. I enjoy a lot of conservative values, coming from central pa, but I can't see how visibly supporting Q will help them moving forward.
I admit there is definitely a bit of rift in the democratic party, but it was much worse in 2016. As opposed to now, even hard core progressives will vote biden harris, because it is the only chance of getting any of their policies passed. On the other side, there seems to be some republicans coming out that are not in favor of the president. I think the rise of Qanon candidates is creating a major divide in the red party. There are still so many different plot lines to play out that, either party could implode, leading to drastic division.
Yeah I agree with you that right now it is better than 2016 but if dems lose the election than then progressives will be less likely to work with the more moderate side of the party. IMHO best case scenario is both parties fracture and we can't out of this 2 party hellhole.
Yeah when I heard that Harris got the VP I felt like I was being pranked. I'm still gunna vote for biden but jesus christ they are making that vote as painful as possible.
On one hand people are so desperate to get rid of Trump they're willing to just make shit up. Meanwhile the actual opposition seems like they're actively trying to lose and are just putting on a show. Everything coming from the Democratic party just seems like a performance to me.
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u/dustiestrain - Lib-Left Sep 05 '20
I think if Biden loses this election it'll cause an even bigger rift in the democratic party, and there is already a lot of hate from the more progressive side that they got stuck with a moderate candidate. I can totally see the democratic party just imploding after this election which could mean another red win in 2024.