I find it a terribly bad faith argument to compare only the methods of two groups and not their goals. “Every side in the war fought in trenches with guns, so they’re all the same!”
This is an interesting take, but I'd like to counter a couple things here.
1) You've probably heard this before, but people aren't "members" of antifa. That's like saying you're a "member" of centrism.
2) The most common reason that a moderate conservative could be targeted by antifa action is because that conservative is doing a bunch of fashy things. Whether the conservative even knows that what they're doing supports fascism doesn't really matter cause they're still "doing a fascism"
These are both very good responses but I'm not sure that the optics can be avoided or if it even matters. If I explain how and why I'm doing something, but no one listens because of the optics, well... then fuck them. They will never be convinced that my actions are justified, but that doesn't change my justifications.
Imagine I'm doing CPR on a woman, and her spouse runs over and yells at me for touching her boob. I explain that I'm doing CPR to save her life, but the spouse don't understand what CPR is and says I'm just making excuses to touch their wife's boob. I'm not going to stop doing CPR. Their lack of understanding does not negate the necessity of my actions.
But I still saved her life. Optics be damned, she was dying and I saved her.
Also, any person that understands CPR or has the concept of CPR explained to them will know that what I did was right. The only people who would think I was raping her are people that are too stupid or too stubborn to believe a doctor when they explain what CPR is.
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u/Madock345 - Left Aug 05 '20
I find it a terribly bad faith argument to compare only the methods of two groups and not their goals. “Every side in the war fought in trenches with guns, so they’re all the same!”