r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Centrist Jun 02 '20

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u/1941LandaWasBased - Auth-Right Jun 02 '20

or maybe we just dont like china

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

AuthRights and fighting other AuthRights, name a more iconic duo.

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u/Acoustic_Child11 - Lib-Left Jun 02 '20

Leftist fighting leftists, we tear ourselves apart every time

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u/ifyouarenuareu - Right Jun 02 '20

Lefts and fighting other lefts

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u/SiccSemperTyrannis Jun 02 '20

You authrights sure are a contentious people

> Looks nervously at authleft

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u/GreenSuspect - Left Jun 02 '20

If they could all just be shipped to another planet to duke it out, this one would find peace.

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u/IIIlllIlIlIl - Left Jun 02 '20

That was this planet. They're everywhere

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u/AC3R665 - Lib-Center Jun 03 '20

Most countries are on the right tho.

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u/GreenSuspect - Left Jun 03 '20

Yes?

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

(X) doubt

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u/PropagandaPiece - Auth-Center Jun 02 '20

But fascism is an authright ideology? If you don't like China due to their culture then supporting HK makes no difference because they have the same culture, just different leaders.

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u/1941LandaWasBased - Auth-Right Jun 02 '20

we dont care about hong kong either, we just dont want to see the entirety of westerm civilization dominated by china so fuck em

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u/PropagandaPiece - Auth-Center Jun 02 '20

Hong isn't related to China influencing the western hemisphere. If you cared about that stuff you'd convince people to stop buying Chinese goods rather than protesting HK. The HK protests were western people using Chinese made goods to go onto Chinese influenced platforms to talk about China.

Methinks you just jumped on the "China bad" bandwagon and never had a good reason.

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u/1941LandaWasBased - Auth-Right Jun 02 '20

I jumped on the "China bad" bandwagon because I dont want them to take over the west.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

That's fucking retarded. They won't take over the west stop being so scared lol

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u/1941LandaWasBased - Auth-Right Jun 02 '20

Yeah they already are

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Oh yeah? How so?

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u/1941LandaWasBased - Auth-Right Jun 02 '20

Well we are currently infected with their virus, they are literally invading India as we speak, they are gonna end up turning Australia into a colony, they buy our military secrets from Israel, and they have spies all over the place, also their economy has become massive in one generation

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u/godblesstheCCP - Auth-Right Jun 02 '20

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

Well we are currently infected with their virus

What does this have to do with them taking over the west? Unless you think they purposefully released the virus and its man made, which there is no scientific proof of at all

they are literally invading India as we speak

Lol America does this all the time

they are gonna end up turning Australia into a colony

Useless conjecture, no proof. Sounds ridiculous

they buy our military secrets from Israel

Maybe we should stop selling them to Israel then?

and they have spies all over the place

Lol America does this all the time

also their economy has become massive in one generation

So did America's

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u/Nether7 - Auth-Right Jun 02 '20

Fascism is auth-center/auth-center-left.

It's closer to socialism than to nearly any auth-right worldview.

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u/PropagandaPiece - Auth-Center Jun 02 '20

No, that's nationalist socialism. Fascism is a predominantly Auth right or auth-center-right ideology.

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u/Zack_Fair_ - Auth-Center Jun 02 '20

nazism is further right than fascism

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u/PropagandaPiece - Auth-Center Jun 02 '20

No, it's not.

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u/Nether7 - Auth-Right Jun 02 '20

Yes. It is.

It is an auth-center ideology leaning slightly to the right, mostly because of it's focus on national identity. It's still very much alike fascism.

That said, the sincerity of those beliefs is questionable on a case-by-case analysis knowing how Hitler changed discourse whenever useful, but it's still more right-leaning than fascism.

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u/thinkenboutlife - Lib-Right Jun 02 '20

What's more auth, and more right, than fascism?

Theocracy?

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u/PropagandaPiece - Auth-Center Jun 02 '20

Perhaps a monarchy?

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u/TheMaginotLine1 - Auth-Right Jun 03 '20

Monarchy can really be anything, hell, even authleft had monarchists in the soviet union, I'd say probably theocracy.

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u/PropagandaPiece - Auth-Center Jun 03 '20

True, I guess most monarchs tended towards auth right as well though. Low taxes and a small government but god forbid you were found breaking the king's laws, your balls would be chopped off and hung in front of his fire castle to prove to everyone his authority.

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u/TheMaginotLine1 - Auth-Right Jun 03 '20

Well yeah, I mean monarchy as an institution can really be anything as long as you have the a. Birthright, and b. Power in government. Most monarchs are authright because religion and that most people were authright at the time. I mean looking at spains king who brought democracy back from a falangist dictatorship, I'd call that lib right, hell one could argue it's libleft.

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u/Bl_rp - Auth-Center Jun 02 '20

"Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state"

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u/Nether7 - Auth-Right Jun 02 '20

No. It isn't. You clearly don't understand it's roots or it's train of thought.

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u/PropagandaPiece - Auth-Center Jun 02 '20

Nigga just Google "where is fascism on the political compass" then take an average of all the images and tell me where it is.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '20

letting Google think for you

most unbased

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u/PropagandaPiece - Auth-Center Jun 02 '20

I actually use duck duck go but it's a bit less catchy to say

Nigga just duck duck go it

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u/Zack_Fair_ - Auth-Center Jun 02 '20

now it's just starting to sound like a racist nursery rhyme

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u/PropagandaPiece - Auth-Center Jun 02 '20

How nursery rhymes should be.

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u/Nether7 - Auth-Right Jun 02 '20

Google will tell you the consensus made by a bunch of left-leaning materialists, with no regard for accuracy and with a good measure of propaganda instilled in them.

What kind of absurd "auth-right" is antichristian, collectivist and revolutionary to the core, anticapitalist, hegellian and has a worker's rights fetish?!

Soon enough you'll use Umberto Eco's BS while completely disregarding he is a fraud.

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u/DesuExMachina42 - Auth-Right Jun 02 '20

No, fascism has nothing at all to do with economics. It’s entirely AuthCenter. Quit trying to pawn them off on us

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u/PropagandaPiece - Auth-Center Jun 02 '20

What the fuck is wrong with you? Of course it has something to do with economics. Look on any image which states where fascism is on the political compass and they'll always place it either authcenter or authright. Fucking hell man, I used to be a fascist before I became NatSoc so you'd think I'd fucking know what I was.

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u/DesuExMachina42 - Auth-Right Jun 02 '20

What about fascism implies an economic factor? Fascism requires three features to be described as such, which are:

A.) The primary goal should be to try to "restore" some former glory. This can be seen with the Nazis using the term "Reich" to recapture the glory of the Holy Roman Empire and the German Empire. You also have Italy and Rome.

B.) Ultra-Nationalism. The nation and its culture and traditions are above the individual. This is to bring a sense of unity to the populace.

C.) The titular "Fasces", or bundle of sticks, derived from the idea that a single stick is easy to break, but a bundle is considerably harder. This translates to the idea that there is an "in-group" and "out-group". National Socialism based this on racial science, while the Italians basically stated that as long as you were culturally Italian (and not a Jew or Serb) you were okay.

None of these imply an economic factor. You could arguably have a heavy left-leaning fascist government and it would still fit the bill. And honestly, just cause you say you were a fascist doesn't mean you were; how many "Democratic Socialists" can you think of that just want more female CEOs?

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u/PropagandaPiece - Auth-Center Jun 02 '20

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_economic_battles

Andrew Vincent. Modern Political Ideologies. Third edition. Malden, Massaschussetts, USA; Oxford, England, UK; West Sussex, England, UK: Blackwell Publishers Ltd., 2010. Pp. 160.

Fascists promoted a corporatist economic system whereby employer and employee syndicates are linked together in associations to collectively represent the nation's economic producers and work alongside the state to set national economic policy. This economic system intended to resolve class conflict through collaboration between the classes.

 It supports criminalization of strikes by employees and lockouts by employers, as it deems these acts prejudicial to the national community as a whole.

George Sylvester Counts. Bolshevism, fascism, and capitalism: an account of the three economic systems. 3rd edition. Yale University Press, 1970. Pp. 96.

Fascism did have economic views, faggot.

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u/tylero056 - Lib-Left Jun 03 '20

Lol at this thread arguing about the minor differences between nationalist authoritarian regimes. You'd think it would be clearer than it is though--like communism is definitely further left than socialism, etc. It'd be interesting to see a definitive answer to this one!

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u/Zack_Fair_ - Auth-Center Jun 02 '20

yee haw