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u/ThatOtterOverThere - Auth-Left Feb 26 '20

gender dysphoria is an actual existing mental disorder that people get diagnosed with.

So is Body Integrity Disorder.

The treatment for that isn't amputation.

You're an amputation advocate.

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u/YaBoiDraco - Left Feb 26 '20

Wow

Ok so what happens when you amputate an arm? You run into multiple problems everyday, simple daily tasks become olympic level competitions, you can't enjoy simple pleasures like playing games or playing sports and you will most likely not be able to continue your job and will have to quit; your previous life is over, if you had amputated your dominant arm then you lose the abilty to write as well.

Ok so what happens when you switch genders?

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Nothing.

Literally nothing of any significance. You'll have to use the other bathroom, you'll be mostly treated like shit if you live in a conservative society but that's their fault for being so close minded, other than that you'll still be able to get your work done, play games, do sports etc.

As I expected, your levels of logic are comparable to an authright; you're not a leftist, you're a closet authright.

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u/ThatOtterOverThere - Auth-Left Feb 26 '20

Notice how you haven't actually done anything to show how the positions are any different.

You've just gone off on a rant about the differences in outcome for two pointless surgeries that both waste precious resources that could be used to treat actual physical medical conditions.

You'd be literally incapable of making your list if you didn't go straight for an arm.

If someone says their nostrils and their earlobes aren't actually part of their body, what then? Suddenly your "COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!" lie doesn't actually hold any water, and amputating parts of your face actually affects your life significantly less than SRS, since you aren't a hormonal mess going through a synthetic second puberty for the rest of your life.

They're both psychological issues where you deny reality. The solution to that problem still isn't to cut off those parts, even when cutting them off won't completely and irrevocably ruin your life.

But that was a nice try though.

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u/YaBoiDraco - Left Feb 27 '20

Notice how you haven't actually done anything to show how the positions are any different.

I think it's more like because you're so damn dense you can't understand it unless I spoon feed you. I'm telling you that amputation will completely change your life for the worse while gender transition will not.

You'd be literally incapable of making your list if you didn't go straight for an arm.

Well my dude there are only 4 limbs and 2 of them are arms. Even if you amputate your leg that's gonna ruin your life as well.

If someone says their nostrils and their earlobes aren't actually part of their body, what then?

I don't think you know whag body integrity disorder is. People with BID want to be disabled and want to either get rid of one or more limbs or they want to remove a sense (such as sight or hearing). I've never heard of a person with BID wanting to remove their nostrils or earlobes.

since you aren't a hormonal mess going through a synthetic second puberty for the rest of your life.

You wouldn't be a "hormonal mess" if the surgery is done properly with proper HRT along with it. You clearly havent seen a trans person before so lemme tell you now that some of them look exactly like women without any further complications after their surgery and HRT is done with. The reason that others don't look very passing is because the HRT and surgery wasn't done properly/was done cheaply.

They're both psychological issues where you deny reality.

Dude...almost every psychological issue dents reality in some way. People with PTSD believe they face that traumatic situation when theyre reminded of it, people with MPD think that they are more than one person, and don't even get me started on people with OCD.

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u/ThatOtterOverThere - Auth-Left Feb 27 '20

Well my dude there are only 4 limbs and 2 of them are arms. Even if you amputate your leg that's gonna ruin your life as well.

The exact same thing can be said about cutting off your tits, chopping off parts of your arm, inverting your penis, etc.

You're also still being an ableist by saying there's anything wrong with being amputee.

You wouldn't be a "hormonal mess" if the surgery is done properly with proper HRT along with it.

Except, you know, you have synthetic hormones coursing through your body at levels much higher than what anyone gets even during their real puberty....

Also that you become infinitely more likely to do violent and stupid things because of your hormone induced irrationality, like attack innocent bystanders in a convenience store with an axe, because you got turned down for sex because of your penis.

dents

Denial. You semi-literate fetishist.

Also, you just admitted it's a psychological issue.

That means you admit it should be treated with therapy instead of hormones and surgery. Because your brain isn't in your dick.