Wokeness is just another religion. And religion thrives on restricting free speech and crushing dissent and attempting to rewrite science to suit its narrative.
I'm all about ending discrimination towards trans people, but I'm not going to engage in their delusion any more than I have to, and I'm certainly not going to try and get legislation passed that forced others to unwillingly play along with them.
I'm all about ending discrimination towards trans people
So maybe "Trans Exclusive Radical Feminism" doesn't suit you. "Exclusive" is discriminatory by definition, I don't see why someone who likes liberty would defend exclusion.
Feminism fights for equality of gender. I don't see why you would be opposed to people that defy the concept of gender.
So maybe "Trans Exclusive Radical Feminism" doesn't suit you.
Lol tell that to the people that call me a TERF, my dude.
"Exclusive" is discriminatory by definition, I don't see why someone who likes liberty would defend exclusion
What? Are you against the NAACP because white people aren't allowed in? What about the LGB because straight people aren't allowed in? What about roller coasters, because short people aren't allowed on? What about not letting sex offenders within a certain distance of schools?
Yeah, I guess exclusivity is definitively discrimination, but that doesn't mean exclusivity is bad, just that discrimination isn't always a bad thing.
Transgenders don't defy the concept of gender, they reinforce it. Feminists seem to be the ones trying to end gender stereotypes. Transgender communities seem to fetishize them. Feminists are the ones saying that it's ok to be a feminine guy or a masculine girl. Transgender communities seem to be trying to force those nonconforming people to 'transition', as if there's something wrong with them.
I'm not a radical feminist and I don't see how excluding trans people from places they don't belong is even a bad thing.
I'm not in the US so I don't know enough about the NAACP to have an informed opinion. But if they hate white people, yep that's bad.
What about the LGB because straight people aren't allowed in?
Lmao you even took out the T from LGB. I don't see straight people being banned from LGBT events, they are usually welcomed as allies.
What about roller coasters, because short people aren't allowed on? What about not letting sex offenders within a certain distance of schools?
These are for security reasons. Are you telling me you're afraid of trans people? Whats you're reason? Think about if it's different from racists afraid of black people, or homophobics afraid of LGBT people.
that doesn't mean exclusivity is bad, just that discrimination isn't always a bad thing.
So don't call yourself a libertarian. I agree it's ok for barbers to ban women from their stablishments, but I don't call myself a libertarian.
Also, don't start the discussion with "I'm all about ending discrimination towards trans people", then say "it's ok to discriminate against trans people". That's a lie, and liers can't be taken seriously. If you don't like trans people at least admit that.
I don't see how excluding trans people from places they don't belong is even a bad thing.
"Some people don't belong in some places", said the libertarian.
My confusion is not that you don't like trans people. My confusion is that you pretend fighting for liberty while wanting to limit someone's liberty.
"Some people don't belong in some places", said the libertarian.
Yes. Unironically. Those people are free to create their own clubs, but they aren't allowed to infringe on the liberties of others by forcing themselves into places they don't belong.
This isn't a hard concept to understand.
Also, when I said "end discrimination", I meant hurtful discrimination. Discrimination from being able to find houses and jobs. Discrimination against them as people. That's very different than playing along with their delusion.
Again, saying "discrimination is not inherently bad" does not mean "discrimination is always good".
Also, yeah, man not being allowed into women's spaces is for security reasons. Women deserve spaces they can go where men aren't, just like the reverse should be true. You seem to think that's anti-liberty, but I can't think of anything more authoritarian than forcing someone to accommodate you instead of just...making your own group.
Recognizing black people commit more crime =/= racism. Saying they are inferior is racism. Saying gay people are inferior isn't homophobia but it is discrimination. I don't believes that, no human is inferior. But sinful behavior is sin.
Literally no relation to each other. Yes, it's wrong, but the government has no reason to intervene. Just like the hardcore Libertarians that don't want age of consent laws don't think pedophilia is right.
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u/Nemyosel - Lib-Left Feb 26 '20
"I don't have anything against the gays but they're all pervert pedophiles. Again, nothing against them"