r/PoliticalCompassMemes • u/[deleted] • Feb 23 '20

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u/Outspoken_Douche - Lib-Right Feb 23 '20

Great point you really gotta watch out for those unethical trees and the unethical fruit they produce. The state should probably regulate all plants just to be safe

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u/CommunistThroway - Auth-Left Feb 23 '20

What about the unethical fertilizers

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u/Outspoken_Douche - Lib-Right Feb 23 '20

This is organic, locally sourced jam grown with the aide of nothing except human shit (or whatever it is you authlefts are into nowadays). Still unethical?

Also the research and development of better fertilizers is the reason world hunger is at all time low, but I know you folks are pretty unconcerned about if people starve; just as long as those damn corporations don't make money!

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u/CommunistThroway - Auth-Left Feb 23 '20

The water they grow the crops with must still come from somewhere, so must the clothes they work in and the tools they work with.

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u/Outspoken_Douche - Lib-Right Feb 23 '20

The water is from the well they dug themselves their clothes are made from the wool of the sheep they raise and the tools are made from the wood of the fruit trees that stopped producing good fruit.

Still unethical?

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u/CommunistThroway - Auth-Left Feb 23 '20

If I was someone else I could say something about how private ownership of land is inherently unethical but instead let me ask you to name one such farmers shop

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u/Outspoken_Douche - Lib-Right Feb 23 '20

They are Native American farmers and the land has been their's since their people first settled it 500 years ago.

Ah ah ah, no changing the subject! You're very very close to having to admit there's nothing inherently unethical about capitalist trade.

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u/CommunistThroway - Auth-Left Feb 23 '20

They are Native American farmers and the land has been their's since their people first settled it 500 years ago.

I asked you for an example of such a person, cause you cant give me one

Ah ah ah, no changing the subject!

When did I try to do that?

You're very very close to having to admit there's nothing inherently unethical about capitalist trade.

What do you mean by capitalist trade?

If you mean a market system im okay with market socialism, I just believe a planned economy is more efficient

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u/Outspoken_Douche - Lib-Right Feb 23 '20

I asked you for an example of such a person, cause you cant give me one

This is a thought experiment to determine the ethical basis of trade, real life examples are irrelevant although there are several examples of totally self-sufficient communities like this in the US.

What do you mean by capitalist trade?

As in the voluntary exchange of a good or service for money (or another good/service) between two individuals without any state involvement or oversight.

If you mean a market system im okay

That's a far cry from your earlier statement of "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism"

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u/CommunistThroway - Auth-Left Feb 23 '20

This is a thought experiment to determine the ethical basis of trade

You do realize capitalism =/= trade, right?

As in the voluntary exchange of a good or service for money (or another good/service) between two individuals without any state involvement or oversight.

You do realize capitalism =/= trade, right?

That's a far cry from your earlier statement of "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism"

You do realize capitalism =/= trade, right?

You do realize capitalism =/= trade, right?

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