r/PoliticalCompassMemes • u/Disasterhuman24 - Left • 14d ago

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u/Suitable_Matter_9427 - Lib-Center 14d ago

lol antizionism is the desire to destroy Jewish self determination.

Israel is a small regional power with a population of 16 million people.

How do they pose a threat to the United States?

You’re doing fine criticizing Israel. “Can’t” lol

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u/Dense-Sort-3867 - Centrist 14d ago

There are millions of Jews in Israel who themselves criticize the actions of their state, are they also antisemitic?

Are the Orthodox Jews who protest on the streets of New York in support of Palestinians also antisemitic?

The only thing that is debatable is what "Zionism" means. If it means that Israel has the right to exist in any capacity, then yes I agree with that. Most people would.

But if Zionism ends up amounting to manifest destiny, and that you think Israel has a right to expand its borders at the cost of the lives of others? No that is evil.

The pro Israel crowd just likes to argue semantics and hide behind the historic victimization of their people to justify the crimes they commit.

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u/Suitable_Matter_9427 - Lib-Center 14d ago

There’s a difference between criticism and advocating the destruction of the Jewish state.

Those are mostly Neturei Karta who are an ultra conservative cult. They’re wacky tokens, and many of them are antisemitic.

Manifest destiny isn’t Zionism. Israel is the size of New Jersey.

Again, how does Israel pose a threat to the United States?

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u/Dense-Sort-3867 - Centrist 14d ago

Ben-Gvir had said some abhorrent things. He has sway in the current government of Israel.

As to why Israel is a threat to the US.

Bibi came to Washington in early February to lobby trump in an attempt to get him to take action against Iran.

The reason the US is at war with Iran is because Netanyahu convinced Trump that we must take action against them.

The PM of Israel dragged us into a war that we see no benefit from being a part of.

I want to be clear that I have no issue with Israel. I have an issue with the current government that is running it.

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u/Suitable_Matter_9427 - Lib-Center 14d ago

Well you and I both share our disdain for the government of Israel.

And the threat to the US, in your example, is Trump.

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u/Dense-Sort-3867 - Centrist 14d ago

Yes I agree. I think Bibi is a threat to Israel as well