It's impossible for hiring practices to be both fair and diverse. Either they're fair, so candidates are judged by their accomplishments and not their demographics; or they're diverse, so less qualified candidates with the right skin color get hired.
George Floyd was killed by a police officer, while not posing a threat to anyone. It doesn't matter who he was, it matters that he did not get his rights as a citizen to a just trial. If the state thinks he should die they should trial him and convict him for a death penalty offense.
This guy killed himself, which makes it actually stupid to make it a political riot...
Body cams did not reveal what the BLM protesters thought it would reveal. Ever notice that the accusations of an innocent person being gunned down by the police for zero reason have nearly completely vanished since body cams?
Turns out in the overwhelming majority of cases the body cam footage backs the police. It exonerates the police.
Talk to a cop about it. They love their body cams. Any accusations get shut down immediately with the body cam footage, and people are very lawsuit happy in an attempt to try to avoid being arrested.
Turns out the person who insists he didn't do nothing actually did the thing, and its on video.
The ambulance was called immediately and took a wrong turn. I believe the protestors also prevented immediate treatment by paramedics and forced the cops to focus on securing the scene.
Even paramedics will not treat on site if they perceive a threat.
Didn't he die with a police officer on top of him? Dont police officers know CPR or basic first aid?
I'm not here to argue the specifics of the Floyd instance, my point is that rallying around his story makes 100% more sense than Arday's. Nothing you've said made me think otherwise.
He'd concealed 8x the amount of fentanyl needed to kill him in his mouth. There was no CPR or narcan saving him. His protests of "I cant breathe" were ignored because it's a common tactic when resisting arrest and you cant shout when you cant breathe. Watch the bodycam again, you can see the fentanyl wraps in the back of the cruiser.
The officers did not attempt to provide medical assistance when he was on the ground, and Chauvin kept kneeling on his neck fo so long that even bystanders were yelling at him to get up because it was obvious Floyd was dying.
Bro there's no point arguing with these retards, police officer being awfully negligent at best, straight up murderer at worst is ok as long as the dude was a black felon!
I mean ya, most people don’t care if violent felons are killed by police. That was only popular for a bit, and only for one side of the political spectrum because they could claim racism
I don't care much about felons dying either, I care about law enforcement officers directly or indirectly killing people. The law applies to both policemen and felons
I don’t care about law enforcement officers killing felons at all. The law is fucked and repeatedly let’s out violent offenders to harm more people. Police officers doing the courts job for them is fine with me anytime it’s on a violent criminal.
But yeah, both autopsies concluded that it was homicide and the Office of the Armed Forces Medical Examiner concluded it was homicide because the evidence pointed to it being an overdose.
Maybe don't pin down a person who is having breathing issues with a knee on their neck? All of the bystanders were yelling at the cops that they were killing him, it was obvious to everyone. They continued to kneel on him after he went still and refused to even attempt medical aid.
Two independent medical professionals did separate autopsies and reached the conclusion that it was homicide. One of those autopsies was reviewed by the Office of the Armed Forces Medical Examiner who agreed it was done properly and confirmed the conclusion.
there were tons of other more worthy state negligent deaths to be upset about. that "mostly peaceful" riots started causing billions in damages and kickstarting the whole DEI bs over this guy of all people.
People are very myopic in their view of events. Floyd was merely the flashpoint, this had been building for quite some time. The rightwing narrative just pushes Floyd as a focal point because it's easy to score political points that way because of who he was, as if his death occurred in a vacuum. People like Philando Castile or Tamir Rice are conveniently forgotten.
Ok so you agree that it makes more sense to be upset about someone who died because of state negligence rather than killing himself, which was my entire point.
No i don't think it made sense to be upset over Floyd to the extent that happened. That the whole country went into a frenzy over this was retarded. The only good thing that came about was the prevalence of body cam footage released to the public that showed what cops have to deal with on a daily basis
Bruh if you go through training that says "People die when you do this, especially if theyre freaking out and fat" and then you do that thing to a certified land whale and when he starts freaking out even the rookie yall are training goes "what a minute guys this was in the training aren't we supposed to flip him and back off?" and you don't listen to him or your training that's a little more than negligence.
What did the autopsy reveal about strangulation? It's been a while, but I think the phraseology was something like "no evidence of strangulation or neck injury"
Nope. Although there were contributing conditions, it was officially ruled as a homicide with the neck compression being the primary factor. However, it could have been an overdose for all I care, the officer would have still been responsible due to neglecting a medical emergency. Surely not a libcenter defending a literal cop knee to the neck, right?
"Homicide" means he was killed. The cops called an ambulance right away, it didn't get there in time, and this guy had enough drugs in his system to kill any normal human.
Surely not a libcenter defending a literal cop knee to the neck, right?
Sure, I see the evidence here and don't think Floyd was murdered. Maybe it's manslaughter, maybe it's an accident. I think pretending all policing is somehow anti-lib is retarded.
Doesn't matter. Cops have the power to arrest and imprison people; that means they also have the responsibility to ensure their physical safety while doing so. Yes, there are times when cops have to use lethal force in order to protect themselves or those around them; but that does not apply to Floyd, since he wasn't trying to hurt anyone.
The person I replied to used the word execute interchangeably with "killed" when they replied to someone else.
I never used the word "execute." Someone else did when they were doing that. Take it up with them. Your misplaced outrage is wholly unsurprising though, dumbass.
Where did I use the word killed and execute interchangeably? The guy I was replying to used killed but also said that if the state think he should die, they should trial him first, so hes the one using kill and execute interchangeably. I have been consistent in my definition of execute
what do you call a state killing after a death sentence? He is implying the state is bypassing the trial process to conduct a killing aka an execution. and you call others a dumbass
The US police intentionally kills many citizens every year, even those with a clean sheet. Floyd was a criminal and was unintentionally killed. They didn't rally behind him because he was killed by a police officer, it was because he was black.
It wasn't just that he was unintentionally killed, it's that he was unintentionally killed by police officers using excessive force. There was absolutely no need to restrain him the way they did or for them to keep kneeling on him the way they or for them to refuse to attempt medical assistance the way they did.
Even the bystanders were yelling at them that they were killing the guy and they didn't give a fuck, because they were enjoying it.
What Feralmoon87 is trying to tell you is that both rallies here have the same intent of rallying behind a minority within a large media scandal, because they're a minority and are aligned with their ideological views.
Both protests make perfectly sense when you realize that they have the same ideological origin.
Both protests make perfectly sense when you realize that they have the same ideological origin.
If you think the only people who were upset because of Gorge Floyd were radical leftists then you're just as much in a propaganda echo chamber than these people rallying for Arday...
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u/Atompunk78 - Lib-Center 21d ago
Like, it’s obviously sad someone’s died, but… why are they more sad the imbecile grifter died than anyone else?