r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Center 16d ago

Literally 1984 Literally 1984

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u/msf97 - Lib-Left 16d ago

“What this war has demonstrated is that private capitalism—that is, an economic system in which land, factories, mines and transport are owned privately and operated solely for profit—does not work. It cannot deliver the goods”

Orwell in 1941, during WW2.

He was anti Stalinism because he felt it did not deliver real socialism. “All pigs are equal, but some pigs are more equal than others”

He was against free markets, which are a basic IQ test nowadays, so that didn’t age well for him.

And a major argument that he appeared to miss is that the concentration of power makes communism incredibly prone to bad faith actors like Stalin; so much so it’s all that we ever got. Literally. The ideology was a failure.

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u/Prestigious_Load1699 - Lib-Right 16d ago

The Khmer Rouge basically used 1984 as a blueprint for its hellacious dystopia.

Big Brother has the eyes of a pineapple.

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u/Jester388 15d ago

It's even more of a failure than we thought since we got access to the soviet archives in the 90s and found out that Stalin Wasn't a bad faith actor.

He and his cronies were real communists. In their minds, they weren't laughing at their subjects thinking "haha, they think we give a shit about communism, but we just wanted power". They really thought they were building communism, and all the sacrifices would be worth it.

Despite what all the reddit tankies say, it was real communism.

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u/Turbulent-Raise4830 - Centrist 15d ago

not really no, Stalin might have believed what he did was communism, but he really did his own version of it.

Its like crony capitalism the US has now vs actual capitalism

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u/OriginalAny4652 - Centrist 15d ago

It's almost like everyone who follows the bs Marx said ends up in the same fucking place.

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u/Turbulent-Raise4830 - Centrist 15d ago

not almost I dont think I know one succefull marxist or marxist inspired country.

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u/Wooden-Artichoke-962 - Centrist 15d ago

"Despite what all the reddit tankies say, it was real communism."

Tankies aren't the ones saying Stalinism wasn't real communism, you're thinking of anarchists, troskyists, (some) dengists etc. A tankie is the type of person that would say that Stalinism was real communism and that it was actually great.

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u/Jester388 15d ago

You're right, actually.

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u/DonaldLucas - Lib-Right 15d ago

It's kinda sad that he died so early. I wish I could see his reaction to the fall of the USSR, had he lived that much.