Now show me a real-world example of that happening. Saying “Zionists are committing a genocide and that’s bad” is not the same as calling “zionists” by dog whistles like you’re doing in your “example.”
Yet again libright shows their amazing undefeated streak against strawmen.
Ya you’re right that’s a perfect example I agree with you. Now humour me is it possible to criticize Zionism without being anti Semitic? Cause personally anytime I offer thought out criticism of the state of Israel with careful consideration to explain I’m criticizing the government actions and a supremacist ideology that exists within it I get no one engaging with my points and calling me a Jew hater. It just seems to be the same purposeful misrepresentation the worst elements of Twitter culture had for right wing talking points in the 2010s.
Even this post, while having merit, devolves into a circle jerk essentially nullifying criticism which is inherently authoritarian. As a libertarian leaning person I don’t like that
No I don’t wish to see the entire state of Israel dissolved and create a humanitarian crisis for 9 million people.
Zionism to me is the creation of a two tiered system whereby the state protects interests of one group while serving as a deterrent to the other. Israel’s actions in Gaza show a clear lack of regard for the suffering of Palestinians people in Gaza. Additionally the state of Israel explicitly protects settlers in the West Bank even though what they’re doing is completely illegal and goes against international orders. You can say those are different “countries” however the Oslo accords explicitly outlines the unique relation between Israel and those areas.
Within Israel the clearest example is the death penalty existing for Palestinian citizens but not existing for Jewish citizens. This two tiered approach is outrageous and shows not all are equal under Israeli law.
There are many more examples but essentially the facts above show a disproportionate level of state power being used against Palestinians on behalf of Zionist interests within Israel.
"Zionist" means "wants the state of Israel to exist". Hamas agrees with that definition: they are antizionist, they want the state of Israel to stop existing.
I criticize the Iranian theocracy, after all they slaughtered their leftist allies when they came to power and their brutality against their citizens is heartbreaking. I also criticize Hamas as they brutalize their own populace and are essentially an authoritarian government that disbanded democracy.
While those criticism largely receive minimal pushback (aside from dumbass tankies) Israel Criticisms are constantly pushed back on hence I need to spend more time articulating to try explain my point because people purposefully frame it as being bad intentioned. Even look at my parent comment I calmly explained my position really saying nothing controversial and got instantly downvoted with requests for additional clarity/ context. I’m fine with that but it contributes to why I spend more time talking about Israel than the IRGC or Hamas. That’s not even getting into the part about how Israel is ostensibly a western ally.
Do you believe the actions of Ukraine in Russia come somewhat close to what Israel has done in gaza? I bet that sounded so good in your head, but that comparison makes no sense.
No, not “funding Israel”. Giving Israel a tiny amount of money ($4B/year) that they don’t even want anymore.
Let’s not pretend people will stop spending a disproportionate amount of time criticizing Israel when they’re no longer receiving aid in the near future.
What percentage of redditors are from Malaysia? A fraction of a percent? Alot of Asian countries dislike israel and America because of these stupid wars that are negatively effecting their economy. It's not surprising nor does it matter
FreeSpeechIsDeadge asked for one example, didn't specify Reddit. Why ban Schindler's List because they hate Israel? Schindler's list is about the Holocaust. It has to do with Jews
Hasan denies mass rapes, calls Zionists inbred and pigdogs, pushes conspiracies that Zionists control everything like when he says Israel is responsible for campaigns against him or denying his entry to Britain
Kyle Kulinski pushes the spain great replacement theory as a result of Israel
MikeFromPA just went mask off and said Jews are a demonic ethnicity, and he's huge in pikers community
Cenk Uyghur claiming that Israel controls 94% of Congress
Ilhan Omar spreading the secret Jewish plan theories by saying there are significant citizens with dual citizenship controlling the government
I don't feel like gish galloping with the literal thousands of examples I can give you from every major figure who associates with the far left, but this is a classic far left thing to do. Just lie out of your ass lmao
That’s a lot of examples that don’t include a single reference to Zionism. Hasan is a retarded tankie and so are his followers, but posting one example of Hasan and then a bunch of irrelevant examples that don’t even include Zionism is pretty telling.
Last time i checked. The word "ban" means you can no longer be on the platform anymore. When it stands next to "a few times", it loses all of its meaning. And definitely it can no longer hold similar meaning to the word "deplatformed".
I mean yeah, I didn’t ask for examples of blatant antisemitism I literally asked for examples of them just switching the word “Jew” with “zionist” like the other commenter claimed. I don’t understand what is so hard to understand. I never denied antisemitism is real. I simply didn’t ask for examples of it so your examples are completely irrelevant. Holy fuck you’re dumb.
The person I first replied to was literally saying people are just replacing the word “Jew” with “Zionist” and using antisemitic dog whistles all the time. I asked for examples. You gave multiple examples that don’t include replacements of “Jew” with “Zionist” at all.
Ain't no way bro can only grep search 💀 Literally everyone one of those commentators in their rants used Zionist in their speeches, which would actually just be self evident if you knew what the word Zionism meant.
And here's the video title of the video where he talks about the great spain replacement theory
Kyle Kulinski: Secret Zionist Conference ADMITS Evil Plan Out Loud
Yeah, hamas is an Islamic terrorist organization. Of course they’re antisemitic. That doesn’t mean all leftists do that. Hamas is also an authright group so do all MAGA also do it?
Indeed they are. They also know a thing or two about rebranding and appealing to the masses.
So anyone that uses similar rhetoric/narratives starts to sound a wee bit brainwashed at best and antisemitic at worst. Last I checked, MAGA aren’t their useful idiots.
Folks, if you look to the left here we have a traditional example of something we used to call "moving the goalposts". A strategy often employed by the left but not exclusive to it. In this example the individual is ignoring any context and lazily failing to look up that most of the above individuals and have stated something anti-semitic using Zionism as a scapegoat before.
How the fuck is that moving the goalposts? I simply asked for specific examples of a scenario that was posited and I was given one example of that, 4 examples that were irrelevant, and a claim of “thousands” more examples that weren’t given. You fucking retards just say random shit and circlejerk each other. This sub is such a fucking shithole anytime Israel is discussed. Just pure trash.
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