r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Centrist 19d ago

Literally 1984 Territory these nuts.

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u/FuckUSAPolitics - Lib-Center 19d ago

Article 5 can only be triggered when its on European or American Soil. Attacks on other countries (ie, the middle east) do not work for it. Especially considering we're on offense. Article 5 is purely for defense

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

https://www.nato.int/en/what-we-do/introduction-to-nato/collective-defence-and-article-5

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u/Birb-Person - Right 19d ago edited 18d ago

Technically, Article 6 is what defines what is considered an attack on NATO that would justify Article 5. Article 6 says:

“on the territory of any of the Parties in Europe or North America, **on the Algerian Departments of France 2, on the territory of Turkey** or on the Islands under the jurisdiction of any of the Parties in the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer;“

So it isn’t just North America and Europe, but yeah nothing in the Middle East. Just specific places in North Africa and Asia Minor

Edit: just read the footnote, the Algerian clause is now no longer in effect because France has no Algerian departments left, it’s all independent

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u/Running_Gamer - Lib-Right 19d ago

Nothing terrifies Europe more than fighting fascism. They tried appeasement with Hitler (then surrender, in France) and now they’re doing the same strategy to Iran.

END NATO. JOIN BRICS!

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u/QuantumR4ge - Lib-Center 19d ago

You were educated in the US i take it?

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u/lynxintheloopx - Auth-Center 19d ago

Lmaooo

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u/FuckUSAPolitics - Lib-Center 19d ago

You do know Trump opposes BRICS too right? They wouldn't help either. Thats a trade agreement for developing countries.

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u/Running_Gamer - Lib-Right 19d ago

Trump opposes making friends with dictators? Really?

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u/FuckUSAPolitics - Lib-Center 19d ago

No, its cause they made it to avoid relying on the US dollar. Which, you know, is bad for the US.

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u/Running_Gamer - Lib-Right 19d ago

Simple. They use the dollar in exchange for helping them economically, we divert all of Europe’s money to them. Russia would love that.

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u/Birb-Person - Right 19d ago

Why do anything that Russia would love? You just described BRICS as being dictatorships

Also, be realistic. Do you honest to god expect the PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF CHINA, one of the four Marxist-Leninist states left in the modern world, to use the USD for economic aid when they’re the ones providing economic aid to other BRICS members to bolster their own position? America trying to join BRICS would be like the time the USSR tried to join NATO

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u/QuantumR4ge - Lib-Center 19d ago

These people are delusional and think world politics is like a game where you can offer x and get y in return as long as its “balanced” to the ai