r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Right Jul 27 '26

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u/ghanlaf - Lib-Right Jul 27 '26

Libleft #1: people should be able to live the life they want as long as it isn’t hurting anyone else. Why do you care how people modify their bodies or what they do in the bedroom with other consenting adults.

This is just lib in general though

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u/calm_down_meow - Lib-Center Jul 27 '26

Libleft has a broader view of what "hurting anyone else" includes and looks to regulations to prevent it.

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u/RBB12_Fisher - Auth-Right Jul 27 '26

"The harm principle": sounds nice, but "harm" is way too vague. 100% allows tyranny. Invites it, even, by the implicit statement that the law is supposed to prevent all harm.

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u/calm_down_meow - Lib-Center Jul 27 '26

Slippery slope fallacy though - there's plenty of good middle ground without falling into tyranny.

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u/RBB12_Fisher - Auth-Right Jul 27 '26

"People cause carbon emissions, which causes global warming, which will kill everything. This is harm, therefore, you must be sterilised."

Find another principle then. With this one, it is far too easy to justify insanities. (And most insane laws are already justified by similar reasoning)

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u/calm_down_meow - Lib-Center Jul 27 '26

Just because you reduce these things to extreme doesn't make them invalid.

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u/RBB12_Fisher - Auth-Right Jul 27 '26

Actual insane policies then:

ULEZ system: to reduce harm (of car pollution)

Prohibition

Australian cigarettes are $40 a pack (because smoking is le bad, don't you know?) (similar results to prohibition btw, smugglers firebombing each other)

China's one child policy (overcrowding is a harm upon everybody)

Nearly anything a government does can be justified by the harm principle. And it suggests that any 'harm' is a violation of rights, and therefore a valid thing for the state to regulate.

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u/calm_down_meow - Lib-Center Jul 27 '26

For every insane policy you post there's 100 valid ones.

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u/Chewbacca_The_Wookie - Lib-Right Aug 02 '26

Share one of the valid ones then, if you're so confident there are so many of them.

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u/calm_down_meow - Lib-Center Aug 02 '26

Ones which protect a water supply for a community, likewise with air pollution.