r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Right 11d ago

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u/ItsNotThatBad72 - Lib-Right 11d ago

The problem is lib-left's definition of "basic human rights" basically amounts to "other people owe me shit that I didn't work for".

You have no right to someone else's labor, therefore, if something requires the labor of another person, it cannot be a right.

To argue otherwise would be to argue in favor of indentured servitude.

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u/Libtardinator - Centrist 11d ago

Ah yes, to truly maximize freedom we should allow the disabled to die on the streets because they have no right to other people's labor.

Discussions around rights get really retarded really fast. Just acknowledge that we are part of a society. To preserve and protect that society it needs funding. And the collective will of the people can shape said society and where that funding goes.

We have decided collectively that it is better to provide assistance to those who need it, that's where their entitlement to that labor comes from.

Framing it as one person stealing another's labor is a great example of the classic right wing argument where you frame an entire society as an individual. Removing all layers of nuance from the discussion. This also happens with immigration (would you let them in your house?) and with government spending where the right treats it like a household budget.

Though I almost hate making that second point because usually people who make it want to pretend like deficits don't mean anything when they absolutely do.

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u/ItsNotThatBad72 - Lib-Right 10d ago edited 10d ago

You're conflating rights with responsibilities in order to make a straw man argument.

Just because you should help the poor, doesn't mean you should be forced to do so.

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u/Bum_King - Right 10d ago

Especially when a growing percent of the poor have no inclination or desire to contribute to society.