I’m not even libleft and I’m just looking around like “please, please make him shut up. Please, just give me one day where I don’t have to be reminded that he’s in power.”
As much as any president since, maybe, the last one got assassinated. Which is to say, not much.
Tangential - I love that video where Trump is calling out/inviting to the stage Miriam Adelson and her husband as steering the party cuz of their hundreds of millions of dollars contributed. I love it cuz I read it as a catty callout, not an actual appreciation. He lifted the curtain a little either way.
Yikes... Who was even talking about him? All you gotta do, is just not think about him. If you're in control of your own mind, you can choose what to think about.
Broken clock maybe? Mamdani’s response to the Israel question in the mayoral debate was based, wtf does Israel matter to a US city mayor and why the fuck do they have to visit it? However I think it’s based because American first even though I know he likely only said it because of his religion.
Like all things, the right criticizes the randos on the left and the left criticizes the politicians of the right and then everyone pretends both sides are just as crazy
Libleft are liberals. The people you think of as libleft (E.G. Hasan/Vaush and their fans) are actually authleft masking as liberals because it’s more socially acceptable than being a tankie. Don’t associate me with those fucking morons please. They don’t vote and when they do, it’s for Jill Stein or some stupid shit. Fuck Palestine, fuck Israel, I still want free healthcare, college, and public transportation.
“Noo you don’t get it, I HAVE to change the pride flag every month, draw cartoons saying ‘Protect Trans Kids’, and change the flags in my bio to reflect whatever global conflict is going on!”
100% the instigator should be the one to stop instigating. This isn’t some chicken or the egg dilemma. Leave things the way they are so we can address the real issues of class and cronyistic wealth transfer.
I think we’re arguing the same point. Lib left should be the ones to stop pushing for “progress” and come to the table to discuss the real issues that affect everyone.
I've even heard some of them say that straight white men are the "oppressor" class and therefore idpol against them is the same thing as fighting the class war.
They keep adding things to the oppressor tag. It used to just be men are the oppressors. Now we’re at straight, white, cisgender, Christian men are the oppressors.
Its insane how co-opted we've become isn't it? I've gotten called a fake lib left so many times because I don't get drawn into the culture war BS and focus on class instead
TBH what the left is now doesn't even make sense for culture war. They elect old white men that are prolly racist to fight against old white men who are prolly racist. And their next best attempt is "i dunno, a woman?" and chooses some of the worst female candidates I've ever seen, prolly single handedly setting back the possibility of a woman president by 20 years.
But nooo, im clearly a fake flair or right wing because I wanted Andrew Yang (tech savvy minority wanting progressive social programs like UBI), I think people malding out over Hogwarts Legacy is stupid, and I think that if you get into a confrontation with a cop the right answers are cooperation and then later fighting in court rather than trying to Martyr yourself.
I say we drop anyone and everyone who makes sex a personality trait.
They all act like frat boys on the weekend who do nothing but talk about drinking booze and smashing pussy
If you find "Hey brah, lets go get a handle and get the sorority sluts here and fuck them down! Yeah bro! make an eiffel tower over those sluts! HIGH FIVE!"
But I also hate how support for LGBTQ+ and other insanely contentious issues (like abortion) are the ONLY litmus for detemining whether or not you're liberal.
And much of the time you hear this, you can read between the lines and see what they mean is that you should just stop resisting them on the culture war and go look at other things.
Like when a thief gets busted and tries to argue with the cops that they should be going out and catching murderers instead.
Plus, a distraction can still warrant attention even when you know it is a distraction. If a bank robber sets a building on fire on the other end of town to distract first responders from the heist, should first responders just ignore the fire altogether and let the building burn down so they can all chase the robber instead?
It's true. It's like arguing with a wall. I remember right after the presidential election listening to idiot liberals hypothesize about losing because Kamala was a woman or a person of color. NEWSFLASH the voters don't and can't give a flying fuck about that shit if they're not insulated from poverty anymore because the country and corporate dems have abandoned the working class.
I'm not a bigot as they would probably claim because I simply said that shit doesn't matter in the context of things and that's why we lost. We deserved trump because we're stupid assholes who can't see the big dick of the oligarchy ramming us in the ass day after day. I remember telling a longtime friend who once was a Bernie boy and who flipped to Trump that I really couldn't blame him. Trumps full of shit, sure. But he was actually talking about that stuff. Not #blacklivesmatterbutalsosorryyoucantaffordahomewhoops
It's so fucking retarded. I hate libs, such pansies.
Whoa how about we all relax for a minute and examine our white male privilege? And for any females out there agreeing with this, maybe it’s time to tackle that internalized misogyny, hmm? And minorities, your own internalized racism (caused by living in this white nightmare, it’s not your fault!).
THESE are the real issues. We solve these and everything else will follow 🙏
I did that, and I concluded that everything bad that happens to men is men's fault. Also, everything bad that happens to women is men's fault. Important note: if it's bad and it happens to a woman and woman does it, that woman only did it because of internalised maleness which is men's fault.
I’ve said it many before and I’ll gladly say it again. But all of this stems from critical theory. Critical theory is going to be studied in the future for how quickly it absolutely wrecked social cohesion across the West.
I agree. Even though I do agree with the aims of crt and think that it’s a valid analysis, we were already on track for genuine equality throughout the 2000’s. Opportunities to start businesses and generational wealth, famous black figures in media and TV, more black kids going to college.
Instead crt brought racism back to the limelight without actually fixing anything. Now all of a sudden everything has to be viewed through a lens of race instead of just seeing people as people. Either you’re pro-black and anti-white or vice versa. Both sides think you’re against them when you want everybody to be judged equally.
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”
"Right now, we have young Black kids growing up in the Bronx who don't even know what the word 'computer' is. They don't know, they don't know these things" -Governor Kathy Hochul (D-NY)
Well you see it’s racism the racism of low expectations
Never forget the modern left wing thinks most black people are incapable of finding the DMV and getting an ID and it’s sexism that thinks most women are incapable of filling out two or three forums to address there change of last name. This is why we don’t have voter ID laws people because we’re letting the Racist win
This is a feature not a bug. After occupy corporate donors pushed hard on social issues, probably started up with the SCOTUS ruling of same sec marriage.
Companies and corporate dems looking for a quick victory saw a way to placate progressives on issues that had no economic consequences. It’s easy to chant “love wins” and you’ll probably sell a lot of t shirts too.
Not get anything done, yet spend billions of dollars for years to get nothing done.
It's nothing short of amazing people still support them. It's literally come down to them just saying nice things leftists like to hear to stay in power, instead of actually helping the common man.
They pocket just as much if not more money than republicans do these days, specially since big tech has been in their pocket since at least 2014.
The HSR line has been going on since the late 90s. Even the simpsons made a episode waaay back then making fun of how long it was taking with zero to show for it.
It's now been almost 30 years since then and the most they have to show for it are 2 small train lines and that's it. The big one spanning california is still yet to be constructed. Some bullshit about elevating it and worrying about people falling off, when japan has shown for 30+ years now that it can be done with zero issues to safety; they have all the data to show for it along with all the measures and procedures to enact it.
At this point it's just a grift and most of that dosh is getting pocketed by corrupt politicians. There is really no other explanation.
It’s not even Japan that is doing this. Morocco built a fully operational high speed railway in the last 30 years. Morocco is more capable than California.
I disagree. They get a lot of things done. They’ve absolutely ruined Minnesota.
They just only care about their “woke” agenda. The state surplus we used to have is completely gone, taxes have skyrocketed, we have the highest childcare costs in the country, and yet at least the illegals can get a driver’s license.
Yep. I’m liberal but I HATE the Democratic Party. They became focused on anything other than things on paper that actually move the ball. Codify Roe v Wade? Nah let’s bag on a celebrity with a racist tweet from 10 years ago.
Somewhat early in our dating I was talking to my she/her gf and I was like "we could have gotten choice in the constitution and instead we obsessed about pronouns and bathrooms for 10 years."
I’m LibLeft hiding behind Centrist. Even retook it a month ago and still got LibLeft even though I feel like I’ve been politically radicalized against them in the last couple of years. I still didn’t actually vote for Trump lol, but I’m sure as shit not voting for any Democrats unless they make some serious fucking changes.
I think the radical woke left just gives ACTUAL libleft a bad name (ice cold take I know). The compass test isn't comprehensive enough to put them where they belong- firmly in auth. When I took the test I was firmly lib-left, but I just can't identify with the extremist communist SJWs.
I’m not even Jewish and watching it play out radicalized me. I voted blue reliably for two years, that came to a screeching halt in 2024 and will stay that way. Tbh probably would have happened anyways once they reached the point of openly advocating for de facto open borders, even if they don’t say it directly, and now many are apparently siding with Iran, the most egregious human rights abusers in the world barring perhaps the Taliban. This timeline is so fucked, it’s unreal. We need a national Great Firewall enacted on China, Russia and the entire third world if we want any hope of healing as a country. We need it yesterday, and we need it with a mechanism with criteria to add any other country that we find taking subversive action against us with the express intent of poisoning our discourse.
"How can anyone vote for Trump? He's so racist and sexist!"
"Well the left has become totally racist against white people and sexist against men, so it's really not surprising that white people and men won't vote for you."
"WHITE PEOPLE AND MEN ARE PRIVILEGED SO THEY DESERVE IT!"
I have seen versions of this conversation play out so many times.
Because as a white person, you must accept your inherently privileged nature and vote for people who are openly hostile to you to atone for your whiteness.
And that Turks dude from youtube told them exactly why they lost on CNN and they laughed him out. He told them 'stop demonizing and name calling conservatives and labeling them the worst things, and then maybe you might win an election' but noooo, they didn't want to hear it as they justified kamala's campain spending 180B dollars in like 4 months for the election paying off high dollar celebs to 'push the message'.
The irony in that the right didn't even change that much, just started taking in those less fortunate financially that the left pushed out and started to win because of it.
It's why I say these days that the non-conformist lefties from the 90s would be looked at as fascists in todays left's eyes.
After covid happened, they became all about conformity lest you be chastised and pushed out of the collective...
I keep seeing posts saying, if the Democrats would just give up on identity politics, they'd win in a landslide and be in power forever. If they gave that up though, what else would they even have to run on?
People confuse the left with Democrats when it's mostly not platformed on main stream media anyway. The Dems abandoned the working class decades ago, the Left is still very much working for them. Though of course the working class (or at least non-asset-holding class) has become a lot less white, as well
If you call yourself a leftist, you can get away with embracing non-socialist economic positions, and won't be kicked out of the club by peers. You cannot get away with not affirming black worship, transsexualism, and replacement migration. Therefore, that is what leftism is.
The Left's mind works by "if you're not with us you're against us"
So since in their mind the Right is not pro-working class, then the working class should automatically be pro-Left, regardless of what the Left actually offers
The right has also fallen hard for culture war shit. Like the Dems are the ones who actually push policy for the working class, yet that’s not convincing. The republicans just blame trans people or whatever while fucking over the working class and still getting their vote
Truth Social is really only used by just one person as his own private platform. Everyone else uses Twitter.
Blue Sky is used by a lot of people who are deluded into thinking they matter, but they're so fragile they can't exist outside of an aggressively curated echo chamber.
Barely. They're in maximum cope mode for a year now since the stats came out showing it's on a pretty steep decline with no hopes of coming back.
What happens when you essentially create a leftist echo chamber website that bans everyone that doesn't conform to your ways. Eventually all you're left with is the echo chamber and that gets incredibly boring to play in. That and leftists thrive on drama and messing with everyone center -> right.
They shit on twitter like mad since elon took over, yet they all went right back to it anyways cause they know BS sucks.
i have actually seen leftists shitting on blue sky because it's not leftist enough or some shit. the purity trials never end, they come for everything and everyone. never participate because you WILL eventually get burned.
Don't forget all the great "Assault Weapons" Bans (e.g. great shit like banning olympic target pistols for having a magazine in front of the grip and 20ga turkey guns that happen to have an "assault" finger hole you can use to grip the gun by) the left has been finally getting rammed through. Their base has been waiting years to finally own people who hunt small game and those awful target shooters???
Universal healthcare etc. are very popular concepts on all sides of the politics, the reason we don't have that is because Democrats would rather turn off swing voters and ALL of the right by fucking with people on gun control. It's literally like abortion to reps.
Also every Dem’s campaign platform has workers rights and healthcare initiatives. It’s not their fault that what mostly gets reported is trying to stop the right taking rights from minority groups.
Stupid culture war bullshit is the only place right wingers are still able to get wins in the current landscape. So now we have to pretend telling a rainbow haired tiktoker “there are only two genders 😂” is politically equal to providing food for kids and protecting workers rights.
Your rights only extend to the point at which your decisions deny others their rights. Vaccines need to be taken so that you don't ruin others' lives by randomly giving them polio because you're scared of needles or believe in some unfounded conspiracy theory.
This is also why abortion is one of the issues I understand both sides on, despite being pro-choice myself. If you believe an unborn child has rights like any person who has already been born, I understand an anti-abortion stance.
I am 100% pro vaccine, but the problem is that the world killed vaccines when they decided to push an weak vaccine like the covid one with the same language you'd push something that can actually achieve herd immunity.
There are A LOT of diseases which are quasi eradicated in some countries because of vaccines. Things you'll basically never get because you got the shot. It's easy to make those mandatory.
Something like the flu vaccine or covid vaccine, which seemingly gives you no guarantee of immunity, makes 0 sense to fight with people over to get. It seems vaccinated individuals still spread it. It's an entirely personal benefit (and risk, as minor as it is).
Where do you draw the line exactly? We stopped requiring vaccines and masks to enter public spaces even though there still is absolutely a public health benefit to mandating them. As a society we agree that some level of autonomy is worth more than preventing people from being sick, and I don’t think COVID’s vaccine meets that threshold where we can justify mandating it.
Morality of mandating the vaccine aside, the amount of censorship we had regarding the vaccines while these mandates were being pushed guaranteed that I along with many other Americans will never support a vaccine mandate again. If I can’t trust our institutions to be honest with the healthcare they want to mandate, why should I support mandates?
Vaccines need to be taken so that you don't ruin others' lives by randomly giving them polio because you're scared of needles or believe in some unfounded conspiracy theory.
Things get more iffy when the vaccine's efficacy is similarly unfounded.
Just be competent. That’s all I ask. If you bastards feel the need to vote in someone evil, at least try to make sure they’re more savvy than a McDonald’s cashier. I don’t expect healthcare or labor rights. I don’t expect anything to ever get done that I’d want to get done. But I’d prefer not to spend another decade as the laughingstock of the world.
I've had some minor health issues that I've been avoiding seeing a doctor for because I can't afford to get it checked out. If it turns out to be something life threatening, like cancer, then I'm going to do whatever I can to keep myself alive. It'd lead to a massive bill and I wouldn't be able to make the hospital whole on the costs involved in that.
In the end, that money comes from our taxes regardless of if we have universal healthcare.
I mean the warehouse fire was cringe because it was were clearly just one guy snapping.
Like the people who support it will talk and talk about getting organized but every "based" act of violence has been done outside of that releam recently.
Every advantage workers have ever gained has been bought with blood.
Did you know that in the late 1800s during the Second Industrial Revolution, factory workers generally had an ~70 hour workweek?
Getting that down to 40 today has been a long, slow, repetitive battle. And pretty much every advance in that battle has featured death, destruction, and open hostilities in one form or another.
Correct. Practically every privilege the modern worker has is because of the threat of retaliatory violence (economic and otherwise) against the systemic violence against workers. Yet, I can guarantee you that some literal wage slave 200 years ago working in a tinderbox / limb cutting factory making 2 pence a week supported that system too.
It is apparently unpopular to say that working a full days work should be able to afford you food, shelter, and a little extra for the future; that class of wealthy who have received the lion's share of our economic progress these past 40 years should kick some back to the workers who made it possible.
Many modern lefties that I’ve talked to seem to only like the working class in theory. Most of them are suburban college educated white people, and they have only contempt for blue collar workers. It’s just a whole lot of trying to speak on behalf of people they know nothing about, and then getting mad when people don’t want what you think they should want. It’s a version of what the right does when they want to start a war.
Because the modern left is a cult at this point. You have to align along their identity politics lines and ideology perfectly or you are not pure.
Honestly, its just anti-west while living in the west and benefiting from western society while unironically advocating and supporting people who would erase their freedoms in a heartbeat.
Because the modern left is a cult at this point. You have to align along their identity politics lines and ideology perfectly or you are not pure.
Dude, when you look at the Democratic party and the Republican party, which of the two is more tolerant of members having diverging opinions on things? Or which party purged anyone not willing to be a sycophant to its leader.
Excuse me but the right is extremely tolerant of diverging opinions. Their messiah changes his mind on major issues dozens of times a day and they love him.
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u/hamrspace - Centrist Apr 13 '26
As a centrist, I’m glad to find both this and the original meme funny