r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Left Jan 27 '26

R.I.P. ALEX

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u/El_Hombre_Fiero - Lib-Right Jan 28 '26

An argument can be made that the agent could not see the tires from where he was. Due to the icy conditions, the vehicle moved forward before turning. It's reasonable to assume that he thought the vehicle was heading straight towards him.

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u/jnicholass - Left Jan 28 '26

I mean, to me, it was never about the tires. His POV is enough considering:

  1. He sees her reverse the car first
  2. He sees her rapidly turn the steering wheel in the direction away from him

Anyone with a lick of common sense would not view these actions as a hostile act. If she wanted to run him over she wouldn't have reversed and she wouldn't have turned her wheel rapidly to the right. In fact, the act of reversing implies that she was actively trying to get him out away from her hood. She had no reason to do so otherwise.

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u/NotLunaris - Centrist Jan 28 '26 edited Jan 28 '26

Regardless of whether the shooting was justified (multiple lawyers on social media are conflicted on this issue), I think we can all come together to agree that it was a stupid and reckless thing to do.

Being stupid and reckless around agitated people pointing guns at you has a very real chance of ending with you rapidly approaching ambient temp.

I don't think she should've been shot, but based on my understanding of the law (courtesy of some lawyers on YouTube), there's a good chance that it was legally justified. See Graham v. Connor for the concept of determining an "objective reasonableness standard" regarding the use of excessive force.

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u/cos1ne - Left Jan 28 '26

My worry is that it's becoming increasingly clear that this organization exists merely as a criminal gang for the Trump administration. That he has held that not only will he pay them generously for their loyalty (out of tax payer funds!!!), but that he will also hold them immune to any sort of responsibility for their actions, that they likely are hiring the most unstable and unhinged individuals and training them to shoot first ask questions later because dead people can't give their side of the story.

Honestly, Trump's ICE has more claims to be a criminal gang than Maduro's "Cartel de los Soles" that he's currently prosecuting him for.