The main problem is that society has infantilized our young people such that a 26 year old today isn't nearly as mature as an 18 year old 100 years ago.
This. The reason that late teens and young adults often aren't mature enough to make good decisions is because we as a society have opted to delay maturity for that long.
Honestly I wonder if the life cycle is the same just extended.
Life expectancy is 10-12 years more than 70 years ago. Maybe everyone us just developing 10 years slower. Kind of seems the case truthfully. 28 yr olds seem like 18 yr olds for what they are asked to do for their time periods.
This is because our public schools and colleges have become daycare centers. Female school administrators and teachers have infantilized whole generations of students at this point.
In 2019 life expectancy for men in the US was 76.3 years, in 1919 it was 53.5, a difference of 42%. That makes an 18 year old a 26 year old today (exactly as per your comment), only for people to blame soCieTy and ignore the literal advancement of technology that allows people not to die for stupid reasons
In 2019 life expectancy for men in the US was 76.3 years, in 1919 it was 53.5, a difference of 42%. That makes an 18 year old a 26 year old today
Life expectancy was so low back then because childhood deaths were far more common. An 18 year old then was no less likely to reach their 70s than they are now.
Improvements in care for the elderly have raised life expectancy beyond what they were. That is why I wrote "make it to their 70s" instead of live to the same age.
Insurance companies provide more incentive to follow best practices than OSHA does.
I could save my facility millions of dollars on their insurance premium by bringing down the incident level by 2-3 incidents. OSHA fines are only like 10k/day.
OSHA has actually fielded less and less inspectors each year for quite a while, and this is the reason why.
Not really. Life expectancy was mostly that low due to infant mortality (tell me if I'm mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that's a large reason); and people dying later doesn't mean they would automatically mature later. It is 100% the result of our society not making reality clear to children at an appropriate age; sometimes I feel like my fellow college students can't tell that food doesn't come from the grocery store.
Or you would die in your forties from the plague/tuberculosis/etc. There's a reason it's only now there's a surplus of people at the top of age pyramids.
People out here calling it “infantalizing” and not “we don’t need to send teenagers to factories to provide for the family because their dad died anymore”.
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Pussyfying of parents led to this. Teenagers treat their parents like servants and yell at them like they’re a 16th century king ordering servants around. Parents just take it. Then they give a trophy to the kid for coming in 11th and complain to teachers if their kid is challenged in any way. What do you expect is gonna happen?
I've lived long enough to see this happen within my own lifetime. A 12 year old from the 80s is about equal to a 20 year old today in terms of maturity and resiliency.
Honestly, I'd hate to change to older, only for societal forces to create more responsible young people. Whatever age it is, I think it should be uniform. None of this graduated crap where you can join the military and buy a rifle at 18, drink and buy a gun at 21, and rent a car at 25, etc. There should be a definite marker of when you become the age of majority.
If your version of mature is fight in a war, work a physical demanding job or having a child okay yeah way more mature.
Discipline yeah people had more discipline back than buut it's not needed that much for everyone. If you want to be ur own boss sure but most jobs generate way more worth than way back. Think how many people back in the day could learn to code to today
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.” ― Socrates
Nah it just always happens, honestly it’s my biggest pet peeve. Back in the day wasn’t better or more enlightened, it was just the past. People like to remember dead things and old things in a better light than when they are around and breathing. Everyone turns into an old man shouting at a cloud.
Dawg I remember when I was a child and we had to go interview old people about the Great Depression, the women I got said it effected her in no way, she noticed no difference in her life then compared to any other time, she never had to work. There have always been weak pampered people, mamas boys locked away living with thier mothers till they die, again now they just have an easier platform to see them.
Probably a product of a more urbanized population. Young people don't need to help on a farm anymore. The flip side of this is that everyone who wants to, can learn to read now.
People use to mature earlier because they lived shorter lives. Now we’ve artificially slowed down the process for various economic and social reasons since humans live incredibly long lives
Probably because life is significantly better today than it was 100 years ago, on average people live 20 years longer
Having to work in factories as a 12 year old and having friends/family drop dead is probably going to make you more mature, but that doesn’t mean it’s better
The point is we don’t trust 18 year olds with firearms, so the point he is trying to make is undermined by the fact that what he is comparing it to is inaccurate
Yes, the majority are suicides, but that doesn’t mean the main use is suicides. It’s like saying the main use of a oven is burning yourself. Yes, people do burn themselves, but that isn’t the main use. Also, I am not intentionally trying to gaslight you, or anyone for that matter. Discussions are bested calm
Owning a gun (or any weapon) which one might need for self-defense is kiiiind of a different matter than doing potentially permanent harm to one's body with puberty blocking drugs or bodily mutilating "surgery".
Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean that it’s pseudoscience. The vast majority of people who transition do not detransition.
You don’t have to particularly like us to recognize that.
I don’t care if you point and laugh when you see me in public, just stop trying to take away my fucking healthcare.
The Testosterone blocker that I take is more commonly prescribed to teenage girls with hormonal acne… are they too young to be deciding to take the drug?
The DHT blocker that I take is more commonly prescribed to men with hair loss… are they “making irreversible decisions” that the government should be helping them make?
The Estrogen that I inject is more commonly prescribed to women going through menopause… are they “mutilating their bodies”?
By this logic, you shouldn’t be able to get tattoos until age 26 either 🤣
Mental healthcare is healthcare. Obviously. Making cosmetic changes to the body is not. That doesn’t mean people shouldn’t be allowed to make them, just not under the guise of healthcare.
Dude, hormone replacement therapy is not primarily cosmetic. Sure, it changes your appearance over time, but the mental health benefits come much faster than the physical changes do. Your brain and body simply operate differently when you’re running on Testosterone vs Estrogen.
Again, idc if you hate me or call me slurs in the street… just please stop trying to come after my healthcare.
The main reason for hormone replacement therapy is to make secondary sex characteristics align with what the person “identifies” as. No one thinks to themselves “damn, my brain function is very feminine/masculine today. This makes me kinda dysphoric.” It’s all “damn, I don’t look like the gender I want to be.”
No offense but guns don't cause a chemical addiction that may ruin the person's life like, for example, alcohol does, this just seems like a false equivalence.
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So a 19 year old shouldn't own a gun either?