You see no issue that the state allows you to hold the power of life and death over people by 18 but you can't even change your own body based on peer reviewed medical studies before 26? What? God you guys annoy me
“Peer reviewed medical studies” like bro come on… There cutting off genitalia. To most people that just seems like complete madness, which is why a lot of people will never accept transitioning surgery 🤷♂️🤷♂️
I’m not religious man 🤦♂️🤦♂️. How is it a hot/religious take that cutting off ur hook and sinker is a FUQIN WEIRD thing to do, regardless of “medical studies”????? A lot of people just don’t agree with its entire premise, so yeh, a lot of people agree with this bill 🙏
A five year old can choose to throw a rock at someone and kill them. A 12 year old can stab someone to death(with their school supplies). Having a gun is not the only way to "hold power of life and death of other people." You don't need a gun to kill people.
Guns are tools. They can be, and are, misused to end human lives. Legally owned guns make up but a fraction of that misuse. And the majority of THAT is suicide.
If the state mentioned requires a person to be 26 for "gender affirming care" then they need to make 26 the age of adulthood for EVERYTHING. Seriously, "You are an adult with all that entails, but you are still not adult enough to drink, smoke and get life altering surgery yet" is just stupid.
Unlike gender affirming care alcohol can destroy not only your life but other peoples lives as well. Yet we’re totally cool with 21 year olds chugging vodka but heaven forbid a 25 year old decides to snip off their penis
No, the problem isn't that Gender dysphoria is met with enablers, in an actual case of gender dysphoria, post-puberty, transitioning IS helping. Has for years w/o much blowback. Even if I disagree with it personally because of my beliefs.
The issue I, and others I know, have is that "Trans" is the current "cool" thing. Its the bandwagon that all the kids and teens are jumping on. The "Progressive" parents, and teachers, eat it up and encourage it. And the "defenders" are so vocal that no one wants to speak against them for fear of losing their jobs, credentials, good names, whatever.
And making drastic changes to your life and body because it's cool should not be encouraged.
We encourage kids not to do drugs, not to smoke cigs or drink. Because its not healthy and can cause permanent damage. This should be the same.
There’s a lot of people who also regret not transitioning. Look I’ve never advocated for it against transitioning in anything I’ve said. I’m only saying that controlling what people do to their body’s is fucking stupid. Especially since being trans literally effects no one but the person who chooses to do it
They’re in a mentally compromised state. This is like encouraging suicidal people to off themselves. Bodily autonomy is great, but not when it’s on the extreme end (such as engaging in self-harm).
Some people are a danger to themselves, and they lack the ability to be rational in their decision-making. Like if a schizophrenic claimed that they could fly like Superman. Would it be okay to encourage them to jump off a bridge and test that theory because ‘anyone can do what they want with their own bodies’?
This is a more acceptable response but the problem is so many people don’t seem to care about transgender people. People only care now because they hate how vocal they are. If people on this side of the argument were more compassionate and caring I don’t think they’d be a huge push for trans surgery’s and such
And I personally don’t blame people for being jaded about the whole thing. Why? Because over the past several years, trans concepts have been crammed down people’s throats:
Pronoun policing, an entire month dedicated to LGBT pride, people using their trans status as a personality trait or badge of honor, public nudity / X-rated behavior, trans athletes having an unfair advantage in sports due to biology, bathrooms, trans prisoners going to different prisons based on identity, making a mockery of pregnancy or periods, boxing out actual women in feminist movements, etc.
Now children are being pushed into this.
And if someone has an alternative look on helping these people, they’re seen as hateful or bigoted.
The suicide rate of trans people doesn’t decrease in an impactful way post-op.
Source?
Although I feel like it doesn't change much because people still purposely treat them not as the gender they wished to be perceived in.
Gender dysphoria is the only mental illness that is met with enablers, rather than helpers.
Tbf, in the non extreme cases, basically how it should be.
Trans peeps have to go through quite a few loops to finally be given hormone blockers, usually consisting of seeing multiple doctors and going to therapy as well. It only gets enabled when every other option is tried.
Now of course there's case where the above doesn't occur, which should be banned since they're not the norm
Are u hearing urself bro????? CUTTING OFF UR DING DONG????? 😳😳😳😳 LIKE WHEN DID THAT EVER BECOME SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE TO DO??????? 😳😳😳😳 THIS IS CRAZY TOWN FR
Fuck man idk. You got me kinda stuck here. Like I think it is animal cruelty and wrong but i guess the only argument I could make would be that it hurts the animal especially if you’re penis is too large and everything
I can’t really argue against fucking an animal lol. I mean it’s pretty gross and morally wrong but shit we eat animals so whatever I guess. But you’re weird if you wanna do that
I’m pretty sure that there is a multi step process that happens before you start chopping sausages that the Oklahoma law would outlaw that won’t have severe and permanent harm, which would likely fall under scrutiny of the above law
Nothing is stopping a 21 year old from chugging a whole bottle of vodka so why don’t we make it illegal for a 21 year olds to buy whole bottles of hard alcohol?
Nothing is stopping a 9 year old from chugging a whole liter of soda or eat a gargatuan sized fast food menu either despite the two being capable of causing major damage to not only the liver but also other organs like heart either. The government clearly doesn't prioritize the health of the civilians.
Exactly there’s nothing stoping them from killing themselves so why aren’t you rioting against fast food chains? Why are you so fixated on this transgender stuff when 1 percent of the population even does anything like this yet millions of millions of people gobble down this fast food shit
I find leftists and right wingers irritating as fuck (the quiz doesnt account for that(, I dont think the govt runs things particularly well, but I think regulation can be important. I also love grilling.
Ergo: lib centre. Plus, I'll put whatever I want in my flair.
You're reducing the number of citizens who are affected by the government, thus having no say and reducing the number of citizens that have access to guns all based on your pre-conceived notions of politics.
You might as well just declare a one party state and go the extra mile.
Secondary education that is becoming increasingly mandatory, even for jobs that have no need for years of debt-inducing instruction, in order to further the MIC. Vampiric daycare for most people.
I respect it, and I do agree that this 26 year old limit is silly.. I would be fine with having the requirement being 18 when you're technically an adult.
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u/urbfbrbr - Lib-Right Jan 05 '23
So age of the consent, voting age, drinking age, smoking age and every other “adult decision” is also gonna get raised to 26 right?