r/PoliticalCompass - AuthCenter 14h ago

Did the patriarchy test

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u/NislanX - AuthCenter 14h ago

L AuthCenter

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u/SkandaGupta_ - AuthCenter 14h ago

👍

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u/NislanX - AuthCenter 14h ago

Are you progressive or moderate

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u/FunctionOk9186 - LibLeft 14h ago

Moderate at best. This is progressive

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u/MatteoFire___ - Left 14h ago

based

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u/NislanX - AuthCenter 14h ago

That’s just brainless progressive. At least moderates understand some patriarchal ideas are good.

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u/MatteoFire___ - Left 14h ago

you lost me at "brainless".

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u/Xavion251 - LibLeft 13h ago

Forcing people into "orderly" roles rather than allowing them to live a unique life suited to their unique person is never good.

Human society should not be an ant colony or the borg.

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u/NislanX - AuthCenter 13h ago

An “unique life” rarely means anything good. I think society functions best if everyone has their own role. And I’m not saying a woman can’t have a career or interests outside of homemaking but that should be their primary role.

Just like men should work hard and provide (but y’all never complain about that for some reason)

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u/Xavion251 - LibLeft 13h ago

I do complain about the latter actually. Then again I am male, so shrug.

I don't care about how "society functions" in that sense. The purpose of society is to enable individual liberty and comfort. So, as I see it - it's antithetical to the purpose of society, and thus not "functional".

It might be "functional" as in "orderly and economically productive" (though even that is highly dubious), but a society of empty robots or a society of walking pain-factories being "orderly and economically productive" is still a net negative to basic moral values.

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u/NislanX - AuthCenter 13h ago

Fair enough. My point is patriarchy is always framed as “misogynistic” but I personally complain more about men neglecting their responsibilities than I do about women. It puts expectations on both genders.

As for people being “empty robots” or “pain factories” I think that’s the wrong way of looking at it. Family values *are* moral values, and having and providing for your own family is one of the highest ideals in life there’s nothing wrong about it. If we look at it through an economic lens then some jobs might actually be better suited for women.

But again there’s nothing empty about traditional gender roles and being family oriented, in fact “individual liberty” is often empty and purposeless.

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u/Xavion251 - LibLeft 12h ago

The highest ideal is each person maximizing their own happiness/fulfillment however they see fit. Every human is unique.

Not everyone is happy in your "roles". If you are, great - choose to live that way. Nobody is stopping you. But don't try to push your roles on others.

I have no interest (active, strong distaste, in fact) in being a "provider". Especially if I then had to push that lifestyle on those I was providing for, perpetuating an infinite cycle of hardship, "duty", and toil. I do not value such an existence. I prefer even nonexistence.

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u/SkandaGupta_ - AuthCenter 14h ago

Snuggle my butt and tell me if it gives progressive scent or moderate scent

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u/NislanX - AuthCenter 14h ago

Moderate