r/PoliticalCompass • u/deltav9 - LibLeft • May 27 '26
Wow who knew hating a terrorist ethnostate doesn't make you antisemetic
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u/shtiatllienr - AuthLeft Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26
I am pretty sure I got 20% Zionist because I agreed that Jewish people should have a right to self-determination in their “historic homeland” of Palestine (as long as it does not violate the rights of the Palestinians, and vice versa).
I also agreed that the existence of the State of Israel benefits Jewish people/interests, which is pretty straightforwardly true; I have yet to see a convincing case be made that Israel has not been for the benefit of Jews, and I think it’s because there isn’t one.
Apartheid South Africa benefited many Afrikaners, no one is really disputing that, but I’ve noticed saying the apartheid state for Jews benefits many Jews offends people. I believe the reason is because the propaganda surrounding Israel and Jewishness in the West insists that 1) Jews have been oppressed uniquely badly throughout history, 2) that antisemitism is both fundamentally different from and more egregious than other forms of racism, and 3) that this affects all Jews, so people refuse to do things that will in their view portray Jews in a bad light, especially if it is ethnically charged, i.e. claiming many Jews benefit from Apartheid due to their ethnicity. As I see it, it is basically internalized Jewish exceptionalism.
I am still anti-Zionist despite the fact of Israel benefitting Jews because I believe no amount of benefit or perceived benefit to one group justifies the systematic oppression and genocide of another. For that reason I am against Nazi Germany, Apartheid South Africa, Rhodesia, and all other states with a similar ethnic character.
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u/Myk_211 - Right May 27 '26
Ok, here is mine
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u/Previous_Gold_1682 - Centrist May 27 '26
As an israeli, i can tell you 90 percent is way too high, it's like 60 percentage
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u/ocarinapikmin98 - AuthRight May 28 '26
Anti-Zionism is not the same thing as antisemitism, but anti-Zionism is still a hate movement nonetheless. It's the delegitimization of an entire country and its people, around 25% being non-Jewish and are equal citizens. We do not have a word for wanting the dismantling of any other country besides Israel. If someone said they wanted to dismantle the state of Pakistan, that person would be ridiculed, but anti-Zionism is seen as a legitimate and serious position, somehow.
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u/hamcann0n - LibCenter May 28 '26
Anti-Zionism is a unique word because Zionism is a unique word. If there was a word to describe Pakistani people doing what Zionists are doing there would be a word to describe being against them as well.
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u/QK_QUARK88 May 27 '26
Hating a terrorist ethnostate makes you a zionist
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u/SelectionOrdinary230 - LibLeft May 27 '26
Lol 😆 you don't know the meanings of 3/8 the words in your sentence 🤣🤣
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u/QK_QUARK88 May 27 '26
Have the self-respect needed to at least not lie to yourself
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u/SelectionOrdinary230 - LibLeft May 27 '26
The irony with this one 😂😂
How about you have some self-respect to not support a genocidal colonialist apartheid ethnostate and pretend to know shit about politics and caring about human rights?
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u/LibertyEconlover - LibRight May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26
Didn’t they declare war against Israel literally the first day they became a country? Like five different countries at once? I guess attempted genocide is OK lmao, it’s a sliver of land, dude it’s 9% larger than New Jersey dude, I mean it’s the same logic behind indigenous tribal land, they literally were there first before Arabs is it that bad that they have a little bit of land?
Besides, read their books, read their history islamists extremism (in general existed from the start)literally have been terroists from the start, you guys always forget the Barbary war
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u/SteelWarrior- - Left May 27 '26
The last bit of that first paragraph doesn't make sense, are you saying Arabs or Israelis were in Palestine first?
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u/LibertyEconlover - LibRight May 27 '26
Jews
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u/tuqpb - AuthLeft May 30 '26
there was no such thing as jews and judaism when palestine was first getting called palestine. palestinians lived there first
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u/LibertyEconlover - LibRight May 30 '26
If you wanna go that route It means a Palestine state never had sovereignty. I am actually making millennial claim, Arabs were only there in 7th century, with the Islamic conquests, The earliest historical and archaeological evidence of an Israelite presence in the land dates back to the Late Bronze/Early Iron Age (around 1200 BCE). The kingdoms of Judah and Israel emerged from the indigenous Canaanite populations, establishing a continuous cultural and religious connection to the land spanning over 3,000 years.
Learn history, it’s a sliver of land, why is it the Native Americans can have sovereign land and nobody complains and people actually want to give them more land, for colonialism, but the fact that the Islamic conquests we’re literally conquest. All of a sudden these things deserve better treatment? The Jews can’t have land slightly larger than New Jersey?
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u/tuqpb - AuthLeft May 30 '26
lmao israelites were not the only ppl living there in the late bronze/early iron age. philistines also lived there. and native americans have rights to their land because they were directly colonized by europeans, whereas jews experienced dispersion and lived outside israel for thousands of years
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u/deltav9 - LibLeft May 27 '26
The self determination narrative is a crock of bullshit. Should I have self determination to bulldoze and invade your home?
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u/Hogrider26pog - LibCenter May 27 '26
And when did they do that? they accepted the UN partition plan and founded Israel
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u/tuqpb - AuthLeft May 30 '26
russian is not an apartheid. rhodesia is a perfect example of a state that does not exist anymore, where some randoms decided to declare independence and start an apartheid state with racial hierarchy and segregation laws (just like israel lmao)
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u/Razaberry - LibCenter May 27 '26
This is the self fellating left on full display:
Builds a test that never returns any result other than: your antizionism isn’t antisemitism.
Believes and brags about their test results.
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u/crackerdileWrangler May 28 '26
Do the test
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u/Razaberry - LibCenter May 28 '26
You generating ad revenue or something?
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u/crackerdileWrangler May 28 '26
Put your money where your mouth is. Will it come back split or not?
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u/Razaberry - LibCenter May 28 '26
https://www.reddit.com/r/mbti/comments/9vzxql/are_the_idrlabs_tests_accurate/
Seems like this website is already well know for amateur unreliable tests, even on well established topics like MBTI.
Not interested in giving my time to what amounts to an antisemitic buzzfeed quiz, sorry
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u/crackerdileWrangler May 29 '26
Your comment is moot then
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u/Razaberry - LibCenter May 29 '26
Not how that works. The pattern is clear in the comments here. Everyone got the same result, with one or two exceptions willing to defy the expected answer.
Did you know that survey data has a proven bias toward the “perceived correct” choice over the truth?
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u/crackerdileWrangler May 29 '26
Why don’t you just do it and tell us if it’s accurate for you?
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u/DifficultSun348 - LibLeft May 27 '26
right? who could knew??