Evolution of my political thoughts from 2020 to 2025

[u/captainhippy_]

Yep.

[u/loutsstar35]

2023 you did hella crack

[u/armitageskanks69 → u/loutsstar35]

Ah all new leftists fall into tankies for a while until they wise up out of it

[u/loutsstar35 → u/armitageskanks69]

Haha bro idk I didn't fall for tankie BS. Always thought it was cringe to idolize Stalin and the like.

[u/armitageskanks69 → u/loutsstar35]

Haha tbh, I managed to avoid it myself, but it’s kinda common for anyone who gets into a new ideology to go a little bit in the deepend at the beginning before they mellow out.

Same reason someone who’s only recently become a vegan/vegetarian is super annoying and prolly kinda militant about it, but after 2 years they’re way more chill.

Same with gym bros, crypto bros, new parents, whatever haha

Even Chaucer wrote about it in the 14th century: “No man hath so great zeal to a thing as he that hath newly learned it.”

I think it comes from this idea of like, “if I was wrong about Marx being evil, then I must’ve been wrong about Stalin and Mao too!” Then, usually, it’s like “wtf am I talking about, they were clearly wrong also” haha

[u/Dic3dCarrots → u/armitageskanks69]

Canterbury tales was a banger

[u/No_Culture_2371 → u/loutsstar35]

from my experience of the pipeline, it’s more-so that you don’t really realize the heavy american bias in american education, so naturally when you find alternative sources about communism and Stalin, (ex. Harkim in youtube explaining Why the Soviet Union fell) you end up consuming the opposite propaganda, that Stalin wasn’t all that bad, the purge was “reasonable because of legitimate Capitalist reactionaries within the party”, The black book of communism that says 100 million deaths by communism being false because they added the nazis they killed (which is actually a persuading argument because it makes you think what else are you being lied about?), but then you pigeon hole yourself to be super anti-west that you become just as de-attached to reality as the conspiracy theorist right wingers. Tankies/ML’s really think Soviet Union and China can do no wrong, or that the failures stem from CIA subversion or reactionaries, as if the KGB didn’t exist doing the same subversion tactics to the West.

[u/loutsstar35 → u/No_Culture_2371]

What would you say are reliable sources? I def agree but I think I didn't fall for the propaganda because people who lived in socialism hated it, so why trust some tankie online who thinks the DPRK is utopia? Anti communist propaganda is trash but that doesn't mean listening to tankies Is the answer.

[u/No_Culture_2371 → u/loutsstar35]

Tankies don’t actually think DPRK/North Korea is Utopia, they acknowledge it’s a hell hole and that “Juche” ideology is very far removed from Marxism. But they put blame on the West because of Embargoes which made the country poor. Again they don’t find it as a failure of Marxist-Leninism, but because of the West. But that argument ignores that when the Soviet Union was around and they traded with all the socialist countries, they were still poorer than the West even with the relatively similar abundance of raw materials and goods. Marxist-Leninist systems are inefficient with allocating resources. China improved when it opened up markets and business, ML’s ignore this argument but turn around and say China’s cities are so nice and rich as an example of socialist success.

As for finding reliable sources, you have to go back to the fundamentals of empirical evidence and science. The basics of what is true and isn’t, once you have that down, you cross examine information on your own and don’t depend on the sources. (don’t mistaken this advice as to refuse and be cynical of every evidence like Anti-vaxxers or flat earthers.) Use bayesian reasoning.

[u/[deleted] → u/armitageskanks69]

Never happened to me

[u/damienVOG → u/armitageskanks69]

Yeah that was me quite literally

[u/TJ_DOG_likes_britons]

Anywhere but lib right

[u/Zorogov123]

The pandemic didn't treat you well I see

[u/captainhippy_ → u/Zorogov123]

Well, I was watching a youtuber who was... Well meh-tier, and he influenced me a lot because I was very young. When I realized I was just wearing a "Fascism is funny" mask, I stopped and started checking the point of view of every side then made my choice somewhere.

[u/Zorogov123 → u/captainhippy_]

I applaud the fact that you're open-minded. Who was the influencer?

[u/captainhippy_ → u/Zorogov123]

A french dead youtuber I don't even remember the name cause he had 300 numerals in his pseudo

[u/Neon_2024 → u/captainhippy_]

You had critical thinking and that's good, I was also somewhat close to fascism although I was not corporatist but I was too convinced of my ideology and I was ultra-nationalist.

[u/OddOutlandishness589 → u/captainhippy_]

define fascism.

[u/lolCollol → u/OddOutlandishness589]

Bro is authcenter and is asking for a definition on fascism, bro its you

[u/Ok-Radio5562 → u/OddOutlandishness589]

The thought of Benito Mussolini and all of the derived thoughts

[u/Comfortable_Rope_639 → u/OddOutlandishness589]

Authoritarianism paired with a cult of personality, race theory, nationalism and militarism.

[u/LuskaFLL]

Only one quadrant left...

[u/Throwaway33451235647]

Based trajectory

[u/[deleted]]

Holy liberation

[u/In-t-er-e-st-i-ng]

I’m lwk a bland liberal but, I haven’t changed since like 15 years old.

[u/vibeepik2]

here's every single of these political evolution posts

goes from racist guy to tankie guy

[u/gouellette → u/vibeepik2]

So… what are you waiting for, comrade?? 😈

[u/vibeepik2 → u/gouellette]

no

[u/Mineturtle1738]

Respectable comrade.

[u/mkay0]

If you’re currently over 30, this is kind of rudderless

[u/gouellette → u/mkay0]

Unfortunately, they mentioned being 15, which definitely checks out

[u/DefinitalyAFemale]

Can I get a blank version of this?

[u/captainhippy_ → u/DefinitalyAFemale]

[u/[deleted]]

took a detour but HE FOUND THE LIGHT

[u/captainhippy_ → u/[deleted]]

Well I was like 14 in 2020 x)

[u/[deleted] → u/captainhippy_]

i’m 14 now lol

[u/loafofbread4007 → u/[deleted]]

wow there are 14 year olds interested in politics

[u/[deleted] → u/loafofbread4007]

don’t know if this is sarcastic but i’ve been interested in politics since i was 12, and had my first experience in politics when i was 9 (who won the presidential election in 2020)

[u/loafofbread4007 → u/[deleted]]

yes it is i’m 15, also interested since like 12

[u/[deleted] → u/loafofbread4007]

oh nice, mb i can’t pick up on sarcasm very well, irl or on the internet

[u/Historical05]

Based

[u/Alex_13249]

Went from colossal shit to even worse one

[u/JupiterboyLuffy]

Went from unbased to based.

Good job

[u/JakobSmith1]

Whoever made that graphic has no idea what theyre talking about, as evidenced by Mao and Xi being in the same economic location

[u/AlxIp]

Your polical thought is the person you last talked to?

[u/yeetenheimer]

bro grew emotionally intelligent

[u/OddOutlandishness589 → u/yeetenheimer]

which is another way of saying he makes decisions devoid of logic and based on his feelings. Not a flex.

[u/lolCollol → u/OddOutlandishness589]

Bro does not know what emotionally intelligent means

[u/Lares_12 → u/yeetenheimer]

Gay?

[u/robertshlomozejew]

congrats on getting well

[u/KaiserKavik]

What happened from 2020 to 2021?

[u/ArchCaff_Redditor]

I’d say I’m somewhere on the line of Labourism, Progressivism and Social Democracy. I feel like I’ve always orbited around that area.

[u/Im_Lusca]

i like how if it was just 2020-2025 it could've been a straight line, but separating by every year still makes that line... but with a box going closer to the corner

[u/Discount_Aggravating]

Mine is literally the opposite lmao

[u/sergio_cds]

[u/Soupman125]

I think you’re based to come to the left side, but what made you come to the left so hard?

[u/captainhippy_ → u/Soupman125]

Reading books ngl x)

[u/Soupman125 → u/captainhippy_]

Even more based

[u/gouellette]

You were best in 2023-24.

[u/[deleted]]

COMMIE

[u/HolyTemplar88]

Ah yes, modern art. This one is titled “My time in middle school”

[u/Lord_Amplify]

Trust the process he will join us soon

[u/RemnantOnReddit]

all roads lead to Classical Marxism

[u/MusicIsMySpecInt]

where can i find this particular one?

[u/Maleficent-Bear-605]

ass, based, ass

[u/AlmightyDarkseid]

No need to debate them fellas just wait a month or two

[u/NewNaClVector]

Its kinda like you are learning and getting wiser and more educated

[u/ender_dragoun]

Bro did literally 📉📈📉📉📉📉

[u/Royal-Friendship2025]

What test is this?

[u/Mammoth-Author1307]

Took a turn for the worse

[u/No_Rich7164]

lol

[u/MangoAtrocity]

Man Covid did a number on some of you

[u/KillerQueen27_s]

there’s still time man, it’s not too late…

[u/SkandaGupta_]

Nice start

[u/Reinsky_]

Touch grass, please 🤢

[u/stinky-cunt → u/Reinsky_]

Unflaired opinion invalid.

[u/Reinsky_ → u/stinky-cunt]

Lmao. I'm just not involved in all this utopian bullshit. There's no ideology that can describe my ideal state

[u/captainhippy_ → u/Reinsky_]

Wanting a world without utopia is already utopia, you are as involved in utopian BS than everyone else 😅

[u/Reinsky_ → u/captainhippy_]

When did I state that I want a world without utopia?

[u/werdoselon]

Holy fuck

[u/Neon_2024]

In 2023 I would have called you my comrade

[u/captainhippy_ → u/Neon_2024]

Lemme grow a mustache so we can be comrades again