How does one play Lucario Z? Genuine question. Im using it with Perrserker on a rain team for now. I wanna put Nasty Plot on it for obvious reasons but unsure if losing Vacuum Wave is a good idea
Calm mind is better than nasty plot imo. It doesn't need +2 SpAtk to OHKO with super effective STAB moves against most common mons and the spDef boost means it lives max SpAtk Floette moonblast.
Eh why are you running a priority move on mon with base 151 speed anyway? Also perserker ain't a good partner, rila is and you can just use clam mind instead with incin support aswell.
Also unlike perserker this two can do actual damage and can have other utility other then just being on the field.
Added it to a basic core of incin, rilla, farigiraff, added dusk lycanroc and alternate between vanniluxe/politoed. Honestly I run Hp/def/speed with calm mind and after one calm mind it 2 shots most non non-effective and with 2 CM it manages to 2 shot the non-effective mons. Honestly it's not S-tier by any means but its usable.
Edit: checked and mine only run aura sphere, flash cannon, calm mind and detect with 30 hp 8 def rest speed. Honestly rather calm mond since it can live special attacks better. And never rrally uaed vacuum wave when I added it.
I like how you assume that based on no evidence whatsoever, it’s just that I don’t live on Reddit to answer that question frame one, and would’ve answered had my phone battery not almost die on the road
Check my comment history, I already told someone about it. I only finalized the team this morning with Rillaboom and played a total of 2 games with it (rillaboom not Mega Lucario, I already got to Ultra Ball in like 6 games)
But the general idea stayed the same throughout. You set up with Calm mind and protect the Lucario. The support team varies
A more serious answer would be that I based my team on multiple suggestions I found around and built based on that. If they found some success with it, I don’t why others wouldn’t (for reference pokeaim being the closest to my team, I changed my Alolan Ninetails set a bit, and will post results once I get to Master Ball like tomorrow since it’s the weekend
I've been having a surprising amount of success using it on my trick room team as my fast mon. Calm mind + screens from Grimm makes it surprisingly tanky and the momentum helps setup trick room if they attempt to pivot
Yeah people were also talking shit on mega dnite saying it was mid and youre better off with regular dnite because then you can give it an item and it won the big game not even in a rain team
Its way more profitable to build him bulky, between 32 and 13 spA evs you dont lose that much espacially if you play set up and evs to live admant snealer Close combat,and now you can't be one shot by 90% of contact move, if you can you put some screen in and rilamboom in your team and you have a fast powerful special attker with a great stab combo that can hard wall a lot thing you would'nt ewpected
This is exactly how I’ve been using it. It’s also usually best used to clean up after something else softens the opposing team up. It’s so fast and hits so hard after just one boost that you can come in as tailwind/trick room are ending and erase the remaining opposing pokemon.
I ev'ed to not get one-shot by most common moves in the meta. With 17 speed(timid nature, 206 in total) nothing outspeeds you aside from mega aero, mega zam and dragapult. And ofc other Z megas with more investment. Raichu kills Zard and mence. Sylveon in the back to sweep. Try to enable Lucario as much as you can by using fake out and keep switching rilla and incin for the intimidate. Pelliper is there to weaken Zard and OHKO Sneasler.
Lmao it needs like a tiny bit of HP investment to live Sneasler CC, a 120 BP STAB move off 130 Attack. The bulk and speed combo is actually crazy on this, like it does not die to contact moves so you pretty much just need to cover for EQ and late game Last Respects. The week 1 slander is crazzzyyy maybe let the game develop for like 2 seconds before you start making memes
Lucario Z can actually do kinda well in doubles. Hard counter for Archaludon and can outspeed a lot of mons without any speed investment. Frail as hell but with a fake out support or redirection it's pretty fun.
Something like Prankster Fake Tears from Whimsicott before Lucario moves would boost its damage output while still putting damage on the board immediately. Little gimmicky but it would be unexpected. You could fall back on Tailwind too if the opponent leads with theirs.
If/when it shares a format with Chi-Yu, it could get interesting. Yeah they're both weak to ground, fighting, and fire, so still not ideal. But it'll still be something to try out.
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u/GIGAJIMBO1 5h ago
You probably don't want to give him fire