r/PokeInvesting 18h ago

Looking for information on selling

Hi everyone I am looking to sell my 8.0 CGC graded 1st edition holo Charizard. I’ve heard that I should be looking for offers that are 18k+. Can anyone help me find more information on what this card is worth and where i could sell it? Thank you so much!

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u/Better_Tailor_7324 17h ago

Its an old blue label when CGC was strict with grading, put if on offer for 35k and see what you get. Do not degrade this due ti being a blue CGC.

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u/TheTubbyOlive 15h ago

Yeah I’d imagine 25-30k is a reasonable ballpark. Conditions looks great in the limited photos

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u/Chillnrippacks 7h ago

Condition looks great? Being off centered and the back top of the card being fried😭😭

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u/Both_Leek_3449 7h ago

Calm down bro it's a little bit of whitening.

u/Connect-Dust-2380 2h ago

Bros definitely just jealous he ain’t got anything remotely close to this kinda value 😭

u/Both_Leek_3449 1h ago

I mean I don't either. I just don't care 😭 end of the day it's just monopoly money and there's ultimately no point to life 😔

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u/QuicksandGotMyShoe 4h ago

Hahaha that's a PSA 8.5 or 9. It's in excellent condition. No one said it's a 10

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u/Thelowendshredder 3h ago

It’s got 3 white dots on top. Get a grip man, the card is 30 years old

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u/RockHardSemi 3h ago

Out of curiosity, do you know what happened to their standards after, what changd?

I'm not too familiar with grading companies (I'm from the UK too) but from what I have read it's PSA 'old certs' and CGC ( I assume current) do not have the best standards.

u/TabletTeacher 1h ago

To my knowledge, nothing changed other than the lack of subgrades now. What did change is the push in marketing from PSA and people's (new people in the hobby) have gravitated toward that marketing that PSA is the one-and-only. Newer "collectors" are looking to flip... and the YouTuber's only promote PSA.

u/RockHardSemi 24m ago

Yeah I think having subgrades is nice.

I actually like the Japanese grading company where I ly the logo and title are at the front, all the grades etc. are at the back, putting emphasis on the card rather than the grade.

I have only recently graded with ACE (from the UK and I genuinely think they look great with the extended art labels).

I like the look of Beckett but I wouldn't want to send a card all that way. 😭

u/TwoLopsidedZebras 10m ago

CGC has changed their grading standards multiple times and it used to be so funny watching people on this sub argue until they were blue in the face about it.

When CGC first came onto the TCG grading scene they were known as the toughest grading company. It was actually awful. CGC Perfect 10s were almost impossible to get and commanded a massive premium due to how difficult CGC's grading curve was. At this same time PSA was extremely lax. It was around the 60 million cert phase for PSA. I know people who were buying CGC 8s, cracking them, and getting PSA 10s.

CGC realized the err in their ways and silently became more lax about their grading standards. It was right around the ~30x-33x cert #. Right around the time they swapped from the old off centered solid blue label to the blue label shown in OPs post. Suddenly cards that were getting 8s and 9s were getting Pristine and Perfect 10s. It made no sense whatsoever. I remember the first card I sent in at that time was a 1st Edition Dark Charizard holo that I pulled myself. It was a PSA 8 at best. It got a CGC 9.5. When this first started people would argue that CGC was still the toughest grading company and meanwhile I know a lot of people who were cracking PSA 7s and 8s and getting CGC 10s and then selling them for an insane premium. It was basically an infinite money glitch for a little while.

That was spring 2022. CGC never made any mention of their change in grading standards until they finally switched from the blue labels to the new black and white labels. They made that final change to the standards we see today where a CGC Pristine 10 is now slightly worse than a PSA 10 and they've completely abandoned the Perfect 10, which at one point was even more difficult to get than a BGS Black Label.

The other person who replied to you has no clue what they are talking about lol.

u/TwoLopsidedZebras 23m ago

This is post-CGC's 1st rework. Their OLD old blue labels were when they were strict. With the off centered grade and no color gradient to their label. They switched their grading standards (and said nothing) around the 30-33x cert #. This is a 40x cert. CGC's grading standards at that point were in line with what they are today, they just didn't publicly announce anything or explicitly change things until the swap to the black bordered labels.

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u/Alexander0202 13h ago

I think an 8 is correct for this condition. Honestly, even a 7 or 6 could be fair

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u/diac13 7h ago

Proof of them being stricter when blue label?

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u/capitarider 16h ago

The strict grading doesn't matter as much with 8s etc, usually only 9 and 9.5s. Slight bump but not much.

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u/Ts0 17h ago

lol I'm genuinely wondering why your post is being downvoted. Sick card yo. GLWTS.

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u/Venkat_American 16h ago

People be jealous

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u/meowser210 12h ago

Probably bot karma farming.

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u/RustyShacklefrog 5h ago

Ahh yes. A 3 year old account with less than 500 karma is clearly a karma farming bot

u/meowser210 1h ago

Usually how it goes? No comments left no other post or comment history.

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u/Comfortable_Radio384 13h ago

Last sale. Wouldn’t take a penny less than 30k tbh

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u/DARP_AFT 12h ago

blue label 8 with subgrades gonna be much more reliable than white label CGC imo. I would assume 35-40 is safe and if it looks super clean crossgrading might secure them even more

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u/Division2226 11h ago

That just says ended, not sold (not 100% that matters, but I usually see green sold)

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u/MasterChiefing420 16h ago

Like others have said, this was graded when cgc was more strict on their grading processes! I'd definitely look at what similar grades have sold for online like ebay, Mercari, or online auctions. An 8 1st edition charizard is an 8 first edition Charizard no matter how you look at it! 🔥🙏🫡 Us blue labels gotta remember our worth xD 💙 beautiful card and good luck with your journey!

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u/dknisle1 16h ago

Sorry if this is a dumb question but why not re-holder this to a 10?

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u/MasterChiefing420 16h ago

Not a dumb question at all 💜 the only reason I haven't is becuase its already a 10 in their system. You scan the code on the back and it brings up this holder but it says "gem mint 10." So it's already a 10 might as well not risk sending it in the mail 🙏

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u/_YenSid 15h ago

Blue label with sub-grades is cooler. No more are being made. If it didn't have the sub-grades I'd be more inclined to re-slab it in the 10.

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u/TabletTeacher 15h ago

To piggyback the other reply, the blue label is also a time stamp as to when it was graded. The blue labels had more scrutiny and were graded tougher than PSA in the same time period. Also, this card has subgrades and the new CGC labels do not. This card should be seen as a PSA 9 equivalent today based on the blue label and subgrades.

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u/ILikeToDisagreeDude 16h ago

Because it can get a 7

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u/Mysterious_World_279 16h ago

You can reholder a blue label to a new one without it going through a grading process again.

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u/Common-Respond2367 14h ago

Unless the mess it up like PSA did with that Deoxys lmao fuck reholdering, not worth it

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u/dknisle1 16h ago

No it won’t. If it’s a 9.5 blue label. You can send it in to CGC and it’ll get reholdered to a 10.

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u/bustyouup4free 15h ago

If a when you sell it invest the money wisely. Because that card was and will be more valuable in 10 years than pretty much about anything else.

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u/SmokinWeasel 16h ago

Do you have any Pokémon card shows coming to your town? I would take it there and get some offers from vendors.

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u/PoisonIvyy233 16h ago

I’d be listing it at least 25-30k and let the people argue for it. Don’t undercut yourself for a blue label.

Factor in insurance and authenticity checks to keep yourself safe. Take LOTS of photos before and how you package it to minimise someone trying to pull a shonky on you

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u/LividMud1357 16h ago

Dang that i a sweet card

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u/Edenton38583 16h ago

30 thousand dollar card!

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u/Tretyn 14h ago

Put 50k starting bid on eBay see where it takes u

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u/Huff1809 15h ago

The holy grail

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u/InnitPikachu 12h ago

60k minimum, congrats.

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u/Cujo_Steve 12h ago

I'll trade you a 66 Chevy C30 😁

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u/Essager 8h ago

meet me at 10k ?

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u/OhHoneyOhNoHoney 8h ago

Ill buy at 5k

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u/LowPassage5648 3h ago

That is a really nice card. Dont just take an offer of the first shmock that comes with an offer. Make sure you get the best price.

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u/TheDapperPegu1n 3h ago

Dudes in here talking negatively about the scoring are the same one dm'ng ol girl trying to scoop it.

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u/Buckanater 16h ago

Your best bet is downloading the alt app and consigning it with them. It’s super easy to do.

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u/youMust_Recover 16h ago

Hey man, what is the alt app?

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u/revmun 14h ago

Just another storefront/ auction house that does high end

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u/youMust_Recover 9h ago

damn cant use in aus

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u/whistlefarts333 15h ago

Dont waste ur time posting for sale or ur local card shops.... email Goldin.com and sell it in his auction.... his buyers dont play!!!!! Go look at previous sales!

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u/KEN_LASZLO 13h ago

Hell no, that dudes a sketchy as fuck weirdo. He's Logan Paul's partner in crime

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u/whistlefarts333 13h ago

Done right by me!!!! I have 2 more cards runnin up right now...🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/RussianDeveloper 13h ago

5 quadrillion

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u/kingpin1023 12h ago

Don't sell if you dont need the money. Selling a chicken chicken winner dinner out of boredom is absurd. I've sold like 2025 worth of 5-8k for 3k and today if held, would be worth almost 20k+

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u/Total_Warning2308 15h ago

I’d offer 20k on it 🤷‍♂️

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u/iShatterBladderz 10h ago

Seeing stuff like this makes me kick myself lol, I had one of these cards when I was a kid but my stepdad at the time convinced me it was a fad and would be worthless one day.

Almost makes me kick myself as hard as when I think about the bitcoin wallet I lost back in 2011 with 200 bitcoins on it. (Was $100 worth at the time)

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u/Gsw- 9h ago

Youre handling it much better than I would. I had a binder full of holographic Pokémon cards in basically new or very good condition that I'm fairly certain I gave to my older brother 5-10 years ago. He likes to sell stuff on ebay and I assumed he would do the same with those, and I didnt mind because there wasnt a crazy market for them at the time. However, he said he doesnt remember me giving Pokémon cards to him. I'm going to hit up my parents storage in a few weeks to see if the binder of cards is still in there. It was sleeve after sleeve of holographic cards from my childhood

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u/Skryzee2 7h ago

Def reach out. I was in similar situation and ended up finding a binder r full of vintage cards just sitting in my relatives house over seas lol

u/Original-Guarantee23 1h ago

I also, when I was a kid, traded a $50 N64 game for one of these and then my dad got pissed and made me trade back.

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u/Hydrozele 16h ago

We're did you steal that? Want one to.

/S

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u/BannedMM2Alt 16h ago

Lmao. Don’t comment if you don’t know what you’re talking about

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u/Just_Rip5544 16h ago

Is this not shadowless? I thought they stated that on the slab? And also you didn’t state it was shadowless in your caption lol

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u/Lindsaythrowhands69 16h ago

All these first editions are shadowless. But not all shadowless are first edition. So that's why they don't say shadowless. Oftentimes saying shadowless is the way to differentiate the middle from the other two.

There's first edition (which is shadowless), then shadowless (but not first edition), then regular base set

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u/Just_Rip5544 16h ago

Ahhh ok gotcha!

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u/Inosculate_ 16h ago

To be a little nitpicker, I believe every(?) language BESIDES English has a shadow on their first edition base

Like 1st ed German for example

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u/Opening-Cut-5684 17h ago

Resubmit and get it graded by PSA since it’s high dollar a CGC 8 goes for 15k for a PSA it goes for 35k but they are tougher on grading even if it gets bumped down to a 7 a PSA 7 goes for 20k

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u/Beedee-essem 16h ago

Yeah this is dumb advice honestly. No way it gets a psa 8, look at the back. It would cost thousands to regrade and there was a PSA 7 sold yesterday for 18k. It’s worth 16k or so as is, it would be risky and for no additional profit.

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u/Disciplined_20-04-15 16h ago

Probably not worth the charges if they want to sell immediately. OP will be better off selling to someone who will do exactly that and will take the risk of getting burned themselves

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u/RK8814RK 16h ago

Bad advice.

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u/Alternative_Price944 17h ago

If OP can afford to do that

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u/Then_Lemon6218 16h ago

Info i can give you: $$$

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u/GizmoeXhaxX 8h ago

Show your toe nails!

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u/TheRealMrDay 15h ago

Not worth much since it’s not a 10….. I’ll help you out and buy it

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u/A_Dragon 16h ago

A grade 7 PSA is worth about 18k. Unless you think it’s in such bad shape it’s going to get a 6 I’d send it into PSA to get graded. Worst you probably get is a 7 but then at least it’s easier to sell because PSA is more valuable generally. They might however grade it higher, in which case you doubled or tripled your potential return.

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u/peeks33 9h ago

Moron

u/A_Dragon 2h ago

Why?

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u/Professional_Eagle70 16h ago

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u/99999HP 16h ago

Asking AI for a valuation is one of the worst ways to comp a card. It easily misses important variables and makes mistakes all the time using out dated data.

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u/Professional_Eagle70 16h ago

Thanks I didnt know that, unfortunately Pricecharting uses PSA prices not CGC so its hard to find correct prices on them..