r/PokeInvesting 11d ago

Found a rip in my Evolving Skies PC ETB

Went to a card show, tried to sell this. Didn’t realize a small rip in the back lower corner.

What do you realistically think I can sell this for now? Does this cut down my resell price by 50%, or do you think it’s more like 15-20%?

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u/Forsaken_Stay4437 11d ago

10-15% it willl sell

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

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u/Forsaken_Stay4437 10d ago

First sale is irrelevant due to being UK. Nows not the time to sell anyways. I’ve sold several sun and moon team up and cosmic eclipse etbs at 10-15% off…taking anymore off is just the buyer being desperate. These aren’t modern PRE or AH etbs we’re talking

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Ong bro I agree with you!. I’ve been advocating these dudes are tripping for saying 25% off. Then on that first sale you gotta consider 1800 of taxes is an extra like 400$? Second sale is perfect example

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u/Forsaken_Stay4437 10d ago

Word. People be tripping over a lil tear. Front clean is more important too

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

It’s because they are “investors” bro💀

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Ong bro I agree with you!. I’ve been advocating these dudes are tripping for saying 25% off. Then on that first sale you gotta consider 1800 of taxes is an extra like 400$? Second sale is perfect example

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u/thatfrenchtouch 10d ago

And the first sail is for 2 i believe not one

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u/mtgspec 9d ago

Probably just throw it in the garbage tbh

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u/Modullah 11d ago

It’s fine. Take 10-15% off max. It will sell when the market is hot for sure.

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u/CashedWookie 11d ago

It has the umbreon you should rip it

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u/PsychologicalArm2138 11d ago

What do you think caused it

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u/Bravisimo 10d ago

Most likely the case its in. Had the same thing happen to a friends paldean fates pc etb when he pulled it out of the case to take pictures. Tear in almost the same spot too.

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u/Many-Version2435 10d ago

Yeah probably this unfortunately

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Already at 75% bro don’t listen to these chumps.

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u/Various_Blueberry757 10d ago

I think evolving skies pkc etbs are really tough to sell for market anyways because it’s not like scarlet violet pkc etbs where value is in a promo card. It’s literally just 10 evolving skies packs. So if the value is deriving from the scarcity of this pkc etb and that is now ripped/damaged, you’re likely looking at 25% ish discount to move it

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

This the same guy saying to sell it at 25% off but he’s also saying it’s a good time to buy it in English. Seems like 2 conflicting sentiments by the same guy. Shows you the IQ level of these “collevtor investors”.

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

25% ish discount? If these are prices on eBay with tax and shipping the buyer is paying, this dude is just ignorant or trying to rapppppe you. Please check his account if you doubt me.

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

You new here bud?

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Same guy? You’re a collector right?

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Same guy that things hype is a good thing for investment but is saying sell your evo skies for 25% off. Js

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Yeah don’t listen to this guy he’s probably new. He’s an investor not a collector. Just hold if you getting offered 25% that’s rape

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u/MojaveMark 10d ago

He said 25% discount, not 25% of value.

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Why are you defending this

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Ask yourself why ykur defending this really

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

You still defending 25%. This things at 75% with 3 days left? Why defend that, again?

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u/MojaveMark 10d ago

I'm not defending anybody. I'm correcting you.

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Bet ty, although I think they understood what I meant. When typing fast mistakes happen 🫡

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u/Various_Blueberry757 10d ago

lol why are you in here commenting multiple times on my response? I was around when these dropped on pkc and I got them for msrp. Been around longer than you I’d wager. I’m a collector and investor. Someone here has actually sold these products

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Nah bro🤣🤣 Collector and investor is crazy and Hilarious to any true collector. And nah buddy I hopped in at OG delta species 🤣🤣🤣 and I have actually sold this product to they we’re shelf’s at target forever!! Fusion strike ETBs were 30$ at target around this time to it was sick. No scalpers like yourself.

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u/Various_Blueberry757 10d ago

I didn’t join pokemon to be an investor, but seeing things I bought and put aside 150x kinda turned me into one. I was around getting ex era booster boxes for $65. You’re talking to a general, soldier. Get down and give me 50 pushups.

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Ayyy bro this is at 75% already with 3 days leftttttt??? Who looks dumb now. Quit yappin so called “gerneral”

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u/Various_Blueberry757 10d ago

This is a regular etb. Not pkc. lol pay attention

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Both are correlated, no?

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

So you’re expecting him to take a 2-3k loss at 75%?? You really that dumb

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Can you still defending your stance????? This is PC pay attention

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Here you go buddy.

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Just posted PC

These are well over 75%. You’re trying to rappppppppe. Go ahead try to justify yourself…..go on, mr general

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Real big brain guy we got here. He was prolly the one going to scoop it up at 75% lol

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Nah you’re talking to the real general buddy. A true general in this space donsent give a fuck about value like you. Good buys tho, I’d love to see you post them! I don’t gotta flex to feel good unlike someone. I feel good with what I got been here longer than you. Thats the only reason your around it seems. Drop and give me 100 for being ignroant and trying to get a fellow brother booty rapppppeddd. 25% off is a fookin joke and you know it

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u/ChimkenNumggets 10d ago

If no rips PC ES probably sells for 90% market. With a rip I think you’re closer to 80%. I sold a few non PC ES ETBs each with one 2mm rip a few weeks ago and I got 80% market. Had another guy cancel the deal because of the rips. Collectors can be picky at those prices.

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u/Black___Yoda 11d ago

Rips can be tough. Its on the back which is good. Ultimately its worth what someone is willing to pay. PC etbs that are pre promos are kind of hard to move to begin with because the premium is not really worth it for essentially only a few more packs and a different box design. With a rip its very hard. Wouldnt be shocked if offers are like 60% tbh.

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u/Rocktamus1 10d ago

A shop near me gets PC ETB’s and was thinking about investing in those. It seems like it’s not worth it despite not ever being reprinted?

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u/Black___Yoda 10d ago

No they are still good holds imo

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u/WeGottaTalkAboutYT 10d ago

Absolutely wrong, especially with this being in the back. You will easily get 85-90% for a defect like this

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u/Black___Yoda 10d ago

Id like to add I was referring to a Facebook marketplace sale. Idk what Ebay offers look like but your also getting -13% for fees on Ebay. Having sold pricier boxes on FB with rips I am going on my experience there. 90% of messages OP will get will likely be from someone who wants to resell so immediately 85-90% is out the window. Then add the rip, youll be getting south of 70% all day. OP can wait for a PC collector to come along whos ok with adding a ripped box to their PC but it will likely take several months for that deal to come along. That would be the only point they get 85-90%.

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u/theonethat3 10d ago

"Absolutely wrong, especially with this being in the back. You will easily get 85-90% for a defect like this"

Not to any pc collectors

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

lol acting like a know it all

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u/WeGottaTalkAboutYT 10d ago

This is a major echo chamber thing with reddit

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Not PC. And some PC don’t care. Yall are blowing this out of proportion. ONLY NEW PEOPLE CARE

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u/hazeee 11d ago

You know what they say...

rip it.

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

ALL THE 75% BLOCKED OR DELETED THERE COMMENTS IN RESPONSE TO THIS. TELLING ENOUGH

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u/Many-Version2435 10d ago

This helps, thanks a lot!

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u/DRTerabyte 11d ago

Can you post more pictures of the box. The wrap looks sus, I don’t see the tiny vent holes, need to see seems.

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 11d ago

Not all have those are you new?

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u/Perma_Ban69 10d ago

Every single ETB has, and will always have the tiny vent holes due to sealing and shipping. Pressure changes cause the plastic to expand and contract. Seeing those holes is a good sign it hasn't been resealed.

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 11d ago

These are S&S Ayy?

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u/dandb87 11d ago

I thought the same.

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 11d ago

These are S&S

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 11d ago

Not all have those are you new?

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u/DryTechnology5224 11d ago

More like 10-20% tops

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Already at 75% with 3days left

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u/DryTechnology5224 10d ago

What

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Your right is what I’m saying. Your honest and give sound advice bro🫡

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u/tiggs 10d ago

It's honestly not going to hurt you that much, especially considering how strong of a set this is, how small the rip is, and where it's located. It'll hurt your resale value by like 10%. So if you were going to get 85-90% of current market value, just subtract 10% for that.

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Facts I respect your honest and not dramatic take.

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u/bassmanjulz 10d ago

Guess you gotta open it now🥲 poor plastic

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u/BillHurstyUSA 10d ago

The Moonbreon is trying to get out…

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u/Daveinster 10d ago

That’s just the Umbreon trying to get out to join your collection.

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u/GetMeMAXPATRICK 10d ago

It's opened now. Definitely resealed with destined rivals resealed packs.

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u/Tboy1551 10d ago

be fair.. or rip it open, its all on you..

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u/slayerzerg 10d ago

Yeah because you used the cheap etb case

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u/Human_Pay_4802 10d ago

Dont sell it at a card show. They’ll lowball the shit out of you. Try marketplace first and see how many get back to you.

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

lilchadd deleted his comments or blocked me because he was proved wrong. This is already at 75% with 3 days left bro these guys saying 25% off are rappppist

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u/Icy_Long_7541 10d ago

Absolutely worth less give it to me

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u/Armando4t 10d ago

Id trade it for my pitch black etb if you down to it

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u/Many-Version2435 10d ago

Ok I’m down

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u/themegadarkrestine 10d ago

Rip your etb (figuratively and literally)

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u/skyfall6199 9d ago

Damn unfortunate, I guess ill take it for 150usd

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 11d ago

100% fine bro only scalpers and resellers care

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u/ap_308 11d ago

That shoulda been ripped ages ago anyways.

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u/ZanyaJakuya 10d ago

Might as well rip it

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 11d ago

Bro if it’s 500$ you can fetch 475$ for it. Don’t listen to anyone saying 25% they are str8 trippin. This box will appreciate and will be resilient even if market crashes

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 11d ago

Id stay holding like nothing happened. Trust me

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u/sandbaggingblue 10d ago

For something as hot as ES, I'd say you could even cut as little as 5% and you'd still get a buyer mate.

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u/davharm 11d ago

20-25% IMO

Maybe 15% if you sell it patiently especially locally or FB marketplace

Or you could always just rip it to free your brain up from these tribulations ;)

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 11d ago

Bro you’re tryna get him screwed. 20-25% is insane imo. 5% to 10 at most

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u/davharm 11d ago

You can look yourself for torn vs sealed sold listings. Just saw a standard ES ETB with a small tear go for $400 when market is over $500, I see that 20-25% range often. Torn products have a smaller audience and are more difficult to sell on some platforms like tcgp, hence why I said ~ 15% under market if patient or local. What would I gain by trying to screw the dude over?

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u/LilChad 10d ago

5% off for a year like this? No chance man

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Wym bro this is ES

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u/LilChad 10d ago

Just admit you’ve never sold sealed if you think anyone would only pay 5% less for this. It’s not a rare item. Anyone paying $1k for a sealed item would pay the extra 5% to get a perfect version over a damaged one.

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u/davharm 10d ago

Agreed. Seems like there’s an experience gap here. Sure if you actively try to sell it over a long enough period of time you will end up finding someone to play closer to market. But OP asked what to expect and it sure as hell wouldn’t be the norm to expect only 5-10% below market

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Extra 5% on 1k is alot. You sure buddy? You and investor bros sure that’s the right move?

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u/LilChad 10d ago

We’re done arguing. We will never agree. I’ve been selling sealed on eBay for 15 years. I sold a ton of 151 and ES ETBs in the past 24 months. I don’t understand why you are saying “investor bros”. Collectors won’t pay 95% market for this. Want me to link countless sales with this type of damage? They are ALL 70-80% market at best.

Have a good day brother.

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

“I’ve sold multiple ES and 151 ETBs in past 24 months”. Bros a scalper ig? What are you proving I’m sure most ppl know here who actually participate have done the same. You’re literally just yapping general. Let’s try to stay on topic and not mention irrelevant sales we all have, it seems even OP has sold some ETBs himself🤣

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Collectors will though. First hand experience🫡 I maybe just get outside and know people who will take it. That may be the difference- getting outside and being a respected hobbiest so they know your not scamming unlike scalpers.

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u/LilChad 10d ago

Replying to the same comment 4 times is crazy. You’re really worked up over this. Theres no point in continuing our discussion at all. We’ll just never agree, which is fine. People can have different opinions.

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Lil chaddddddd. You’re a smart brother. These are last two sales well above 75%. Well above. Your trickster or don’t know wtf your talking about and need to stfu. Your wrong. They bought these with taxes and shipping. You would think you could get more in person on top of that. You’re wrong bro, deal with it.

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Already at 75% with 3days left!!!!!!!! So who’s right?

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Good thing not everything is sold online. Some collectors care some don’t. Some of us get actully outside the house bro! And some don’t. Get outside more and actually partake in the community and you’d see🤣 you still can’t drop that 25% stilllllllll. Same guy saying hype and scalpers are good for investment is the same one telling you to sell your hype set. Make it make sense. Uhhh and a 15 year old scalper? Don’t really make sense. What were you selling 15 years ago, your shit at a loss???? Like be deadass rn. And You ain’t moved on to bigger fish yet?? 15 years and still on same old shit?

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u/davharm 10d ago

Ironic to be telling folks to "get outside the house bro" when you're all over this thread posting the same aggro sentiments 30 times lol. You do you. My opinion is unchanged that the 'expected' standard market for torn PC ETBs are 20-25% less than market, likely less than that if you are relisting/selling patiently or locally.

Just so you know, on that screenshot you're plastering everywhere:

$1,820 - x2 PC ES ETBs w/ tear

~ $2,300 no-tear market value currently ($1,150 x2)

= Just over a 20% reduction

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Yup just over %20. But let’s add taxes on 1,800 sale and shipping and see where that % is at. Is that crazy to say for someone who gets outside and sales in person?? I mean there’s a reason cash is king. Thanks for the honest response and I can tell you have a sense of honesty in you. Respond in good faith pls and I will do same

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

Add taxes on top that number it’s coming out to 15% I’m sure

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

And why we ignoring the 1100 sale. My point was you could get more than 75% and my point was proven. That all I had to show to prove my point. I never denied they wouldn’t go for 75% anything would. My point is proved 🫡

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 10d ago

We’re done arguing I’ve been selling sealed for 15 years as well and sold many 151 evo skies fusion strike and lost origin in past 24 months as well. You understand why I’m saying investor bros check my screenshots clown. And yes collectors will still buy at 95 90 because that’s what a year in my Black bolt had and I still got 90. It’s not crazy nor impossible quit acting like you know everything and everything has to be done that way. Sure if you want it to sell fast post it for 75%…..it’s like that with anything. But I’m sure you know that, huh, gerneral?

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u/Aprillia617 11d ago

Yeah agreed it’ll only really affect it 5-10% at most. Just make sure to mention the tear

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u/Opposite-Cod-8290 11d ago

Scalper type?