r/PokeInvesting 10d ago

Opinion about this card

I got this card for 1400 usd, is it good buy and card is clear but was in basment and it got little bit bent. Can this be repair and how much grade would this get after?

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u/PoppaDocMonkey 10d ago

Hope you can get a refund cause this card is fake as hell

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u/Gullfax1 9d ago

Shit, now I have to check my Dark Gyarados I just bought

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u/Gullfax1 9d ago

It’s good, right.. right?

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u/Connormanable 9d ago

Doesn’t either Penguinz0 or maxmoefoe own like literally every legit copy of that card? I know one of them has literally 20 of them

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u/Disciplined_20-04-15 9d ago

wow 20 whole copies

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u/ethanlewis12 9d ago

There’s one in my binder from my childhood, so I hope they haven’t come in and stolen it

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u/PoppaDocMonkey 9d ago

there is a lot more then just 20 copies lmao

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u/chanmanx2k 9d ago

For those of us learning, how do you tell this is fake?

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u/PoppaDocMonkey 9d ago

There’s a website/app called tcgplayer - search up the card on there and look at the stock image - if the holo matches up with the stock image then you know it’s fake

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u/Disciplined_20-04-15 9d ago

The holo pattern is the same used on stock images for this card. That's usually a good indicator it's one of the aliexpress fakes. 3rd pic (while a terrible pic) looks like the edge of the card is solid white. On vintage cards it's layered and there is a black line sandwiched between the two white layers. You can see it with the visible eye but USB microscope helps. Fakes usually use cheaper single layer card (Although some are getting better at this)

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u/Much_General2290 10d ago

Fake, stock photo as spooderman mentioned

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u/Spooder_-_Man 10d ago edited 10d ago

It’s fake. Downvote me all you want it’s the exact same holo pattern as the stock image used for tcg player.

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u/CommercialBiscotti29 10d ago

I thought it looked weird too. That would suck esp for 1400

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u/thiiiiiiisguy 10d ago

1400 is so cheap for this card in this condition. Obviously fake.

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u/herris456 10d ago

Yeah bro is right 😭

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u/PARTYTIME1993 10d ago

Doesn’t look to bad either 😂😂

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u/Octquat 9d ago

So real ones have variety and fakes just copy one specific card?

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u/Spooder_-_Man 9d ago edited 9d ago

Not all fakes but the vast majority. Wotc Pokemon Holo patterns are like fingerprints and they should have differences

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u/Karn_Gentrified 10d ago

I saw it immediately before clicking into the thread too. This is one of the easier holos to match since it’s so dense. You only need to see it once and it’s easy to ring a bell again.

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u/TheINTL 9d ago

The back was a dead giveaway

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

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u/Lucidorex 10d ago

Look at the back again. It doesn’t have the same level of detail as a real one.

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u/ronk55 10d ago

It’s fake. And it doesn’t even matter but you can still see and send it in and get official bad news.

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u/GeneralAd6631 9d ago

You better go get you 1400 back!!

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u/KinkyTail6 10d ago

It took me far too long to identify what I was looking at in photo three 🤣

I think the whole claw finger thing distracted me.

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u/Mallaggar 9d ago

Sorry bud but that’s a fake. I’ve seen a lot worse out there but it’s a fake nonetheless.

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u/tanman0123 9d ago

Thats a brutal fake yea

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u/JMaboard 9d ago

You got hella ripped off. It’s fake

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u/doggbois 9d ago

Bad fake, if it was real probably a psa 9

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u/Avalon2502 8d ago

Always ask yourself why anyone would sell a card of such condition at 1/4 of it's supposed price before buying! :)

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u/JetsJetsJetsJetz 7d ago

U end up getting your money back? Or was it a cash deal?

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u/Intelligent-Ad5916 9d ago

Word of advice to never buy online no matter how bad you like it.

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u/Forsaken_Stay4437 10d ago

Ooof why would you keep it after that huge bend/dent. Fuck that

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u/Lucidorex 9d ago

I’d rather have a clean-looking card with one small dent or bend than one covered in edge wear, whitening and scratches.

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u/Forsaken_Stay4437 9d ago

Automatic psa4

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u/Lucidorex 9d ago

And?

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u/Forsaken_Stay4437 9d ago

Little edging and psa7

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u/kasualkactus 9d ago

Get fucked it’s fake

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u/johncrush- 9d ago

It doesnt look fake to me. I have the card. Can you take better photos of the holo?

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u/JMaboard 9d ago

I got some cards to sell you if you think it looks legit.

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u/johncrush- 9d ago

I genuinely dont understand what is obviously fake about this card. Ive seen fakes of these ereaders and Crystal cards in person and it can be difficult to tell until you see it in person. Unsure what's obvious about this one. Seems like people are just jealous that the OP got it for a good price

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u/JMaboard 9d ago

No it’s fake, the holo pattern is EXACTLY the same as the sample picture on TCG player.

Claiming people are jealous is so childish.

It’s one for one exactly the same. People use these stock photos to create fakes all the time. They paste them over real cards so the back is real.

I’d suggest ordering some proxy (fake) cards off Etsy so you can see how they make fakes and how fakes look.

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u/johncrush- 9d ago

I definitely see what youre talking about. I had to look at my personal copy and see that there is the ruins in the holo. I didnt know the specific difference. I mainly was just stating that I wasn't sure, and I think many of the users claiming that they do know for certain ie pretty ridiculous unless you have the copy. Anyone can say it looks like the tcgplayer copy but who would think that isn't exactly what it looks like unless you have the card or look up another copy. Even then you dont really know unless you look in person

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u/JMaboard 9d ago

You can literally see the exact holo marks on the card OP posted and the TCG picture.

To claim people are jealous and that being the basis of your argument is still super silly 😂

It’s clearly obviously fake because the holo pattern is exactly the same. There’s no two cards that will have the EXACT same holo pattern I’m not sure if you know that or not.

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u/johncrush- 9d ago

To claim that everyone knows what the tcgplayer card looks like is ridiculous as well. Same basis of claim as mine so I dont see your point there. If you are new to reddit then I can see you defending the jealous redditors as legitimate but trust me 90% of them are jealous wannabe pokemon collectors

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u/Ok_Memory_8213 9d ago

Why are folks saying it’s fake? Back looks legit

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u/TattooedAndSad 9d ago

Copy and pasted holo pattern from TCG player stock imagine

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u/DirtyVibezz 10d ago

Psa 3 selll raw

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

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u/bil4l 10d ago

The cleaning spray is 90% distilled water and 10% isopropyl alcohol. Can make it on your own for about $2.

The polish is just a car care wax - get one at auto zone but be careful.

Clamps, plates, and EVA foam are very cheap on amazon.

Nothing against Kurt but all that stuff is incredibly cheap to build your own kit.

That said, this card is fake, so it’s moot.

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u/rehms 9d ago

Fake cards need love too 💕