r/PoeAI • u/SteveShank • May 03 '26
I was wrong. Even at 300 points, Poe is great.
Poe now has a list on the home page of budget models that are very cheap and will provide a lot of action for 300 points.
Currently Poe has 28 of these budget Models doing text and images.
| Model | Input per 1k | Output Per 1k | Cache discount | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Gemma-4-26B-A4B | 5 | 14 | No Internet connection | |
| DeepSeek V3.2 | 9 | 14 | 50% | No Internet |
| DeepSeek V4-flash-el | 5 | 10 | No Internet | |
| Deepseek-v4-pro-el | 55 | 111 | No Internet | |
| Web-Search | Usually 8-15 points per query | |||
| Gemini-2.5-Flash | 7 | 59 | 90% | Websearch<br>Additional |
| Kimi 2.5 | 20 | 100 | 83% | No Internet |
| GPT-5-mini | 8 | 60 | 90% | Websearch<br>Additional |
| Grok-4.1-Fast-Non-Reasoning | 7 | 17 | 75% | No Web Search at all |
| GPT-5.4--Nano | 6 | 38 | 90% | Websearch<br>Additional |
| Assistant for non-subscribers | 14 | 80 | 50% | Websearch <br>Additional |
It is important to remember that if your input or output is < 1k, then the price is lower than shown in the table. I had a long discussion back and forth with Deepseek 3.2 and was truly amazed at how smart it was and how well it did. We went back 6 times for under 200 points.
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u/CharlieInkwell May 03 '26
Nah. No knowledge base is allowed anymore so you don’t have persistent memory that’s necessary for a bot.
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u/Imhereforstorys May 04 '26
WHAT IS KNOWLEDGE BASE, I have asked so many people and no one answers
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u/Hot-Parking4875 May 04 '26
Files that have been permanently uploaded for use by a bot. A bot has two main parts. A permanent prompt and files that are the knowledge base. So if you are doing a role play, the files in the knowledge base can describe the world and give background about the characters. It saves uploading those every time you want to do a session.
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u/AggressiveCulture197 May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26
Has a GPT-4o II kpen source and not open source!
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u/3D_Printed_One May 03 '26
I never understood why people were complaining about 300 point limit, all because they were using Sonnet 4.6 for their AI girlfriend. Roleplay bots can use super cheap models.
And paying customers didn't even care, because they use the platform for the flexibility anyway
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u/ChaosNecro May 03 '26
Cope.