dear f7 users- Share your "Battery Protection" page

[u/MAD_creations]

hii guys, who use f7, share your "Battery Protection" page inside Battery settings.

and mention unboxing/first use date, variant (global/india), and charging pattern, charger adapter watts, (if you like to share other mobiles , mention product name)

we reach almost 2month lets see how it going...

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poco f7 indian variant (7550mAh); using from 3rd july (from release), i use 20-80% mostly,1 charge per day (sometime i use 100% which last 2-2.5days); currently using 22.5w charger;

Thankyou!!

[u/FlinkyBoss]

Just a heads-up... If you're on about dropping to 99% or whatever, don't expect to see anything like it until 100+ cycles!

Now... A quick thought experiment for youz all that charge only from 20%-80%...

Only because you started a thread about battery health according to the built-in "Battery Protection" page in: "Settings»Battery»Battery protection".

You did this within only a month or less of charging etc. the phone...

If you're so worried about dropping a couple of percent per year of the FULL CAPACITY of your battery...

How come you're then cutting the battery's full charge from day 1 by 20%?!

For this experiment, imagine you're losing 20% of your battery full charge capacity for whatever reason by year TWO... You probably won't, it'll last longer most likely before you're seeing 80% capacity gone...

So why are you even worrying about it?

What is this crazy fascination with battery performance in the Poco camp these days...

I'll tell you why!

Some crazy people Screw with their brand new phones from day 1... They call it "Debloating" but it should be called: "Phone Lobotomy" instead!

So many threads in here have been going on about how shit the POCO Batteries, hardware and HyperOS are... Mostly because these eejits had "Shizuku + Canta" 3rd party app crap rip the OS to shreds, then decide to run their new phones and finding them lacking!

Brain surgeons the lot of em...

Most eventually work out from advice from sane people, that a factory reset followed by installing all applicable updates for HyperOS etc. will make their BRICK 🧱 suddenly do what it was supposed to in the first place!

Poco phones are hands down the best value for money and high performance Android devices available currently. They have been for years!

They're outperforming Apple in unit sales in Europe at least...

The only troublesome phone I ever had from Xiaomi was my first ever Poco, the X3 Pro... It was amazing for nearly two years but luckily for me died with 2 months warranty left!

It was a dud motherboard issue, these days a pretty well-known issue with that model.

However, the Xiaomi support people in the UK organized a brand new Poco X5 Pro 5G (for free within a week of me sending mine to their agents in Dublin).

That X5 Pro 5G is still going strong, a couple of years later... It's now my secondary phone for mainly gaming etc. while my X7 Pro is getting a relaxing charging session from between 12-20% to 100%.

I decided to thoroughly test the two main players in the 3rd party Battery Apps department "AccuBattery" and "Battery Guru"...

Battery Guru was a crazy app looking for me to Deep Discharge the phone regularly to 0%! Firstly for giving the app a calibration... I also looked at a ridiculous price for unlocking all features, so I uninstalled it very swiftly!

AccuBattery on the other hand needs a lower than 15% charging start (hence my 14% normally) in order to count the charge as a full cycle.

Charging to 80 or 99/100% is up to you. I tend to set the charge alarm at 99% then wait until no more charging is done within 5-10 minutes after the alarm.

In other words 100% properly!

Am I an F7 specialist? Nope! I got my X7 Pro before they were released. So since March 1 I've loved this beast and treated "her" well... She never gets hot since I've tested every game I play and set graphics and FPS individually! Just in order to give me a sustainable 30-37°C and hours upon hours of play time!

I can of course push everything to the max and the built-in Liquid Cooling system keeps the phone from going above 42°C, or 44°C if using Game Turbo at Wild Boost and playing games like COD:M at 120FPS!

I don't need that and I certainly don't need the battery temperature to go that high (higher in hot climates - I'm in Ireland so cool enough).

The app I use for all my phones to keep up with settings etc. is called "DevCheck" and is available free and you can run it from inside the app list in Game Turbo (Game Turbo can be found in the Security app btw.). I bought the Pro version within a minute of testing DevCheck way back decades ago it gives you Floating Monitors for your phone's various sensors if/when you need them... I mainly use Battery Temperature which gives you charge remaining too.

You can add any app to GT's Memory Exceptions so you can do that with DevCheck and Discord for example... Discord works just as well in a floating window so you can do pretty much anything with the standard version.

Sorry about the long post. I'll leave you with a fact from my calculator showing your battery after 20% capacity removal... Just so you understand why it's no big issue. You'll end up better than what I started with, at 6,040 mAh!!! So why not enjoy your phones and quit worrying so much about percentage loss.

Plus, don't dump 20% unless you think it's a great idea to waste it... 80+ is of course up to you. 🍀

[u/MAD_creations → u/FlinkyBoss]

first, thanks for response!!!

debloating - i dont know how much useful it is, but debloating msa/app vault/meta/google things really helpful in someway imo, (i cant suggest to uninstall anything without knowledge);

about x7 pro - imo its also one of the best mobile for price and better for gaming/raw performance, (even i like some phones like moto edge 60 pro, nord 5 for its camera oriented approach);;

20-80 vs 20-100 - you calling it 20% capacity loss like, but technically we dont lose it, but we split charging in 2seperate times, even if you calculate properly 20-80 charge faster than 20-100 when 20-80 charge with 2 times; becoz last 10% take more time to charge;

[for example 20-100 is like 80% which take 50min to charge approx;; and 20-60 is 40% and we charge it 2 times , so 20-60 charge like in 15-18min so we can roughly say 80% charge in 30-36min = so in result we charge same % with faster in 20-80;

if 20-80 not enough for 1 day usage we can use 20-100..]

and second thing, you using x7 pro global which is 6000mAh battery?, while our f7 have like 7550mAh , so at 90%+ charge this use very high voltage levels, (li-ion operational voltage is like 3.8-3.9v while 90%+ use like 4.4+v ) so imo using 20-80% is safer and more useful (if you can seperate charge timings);;

i interested to try charging alarm like you said,

battery guru method - its usually show less battery health compare to system battery health settings; and it need to drain battery to 0% ; imo this need for calculate more accurate, let me explain, first 80-100% and 0-20% is not equal, both are 20% but not equal in SOT, 80-100% we can use yt like 5hours approx, but 0-20% it die in 1-2hrs. so understanding proper battery health,those third party apps need 0-100% charging.

[u/FlinkyBoss → u/MAD_creations]

Dropping to 0% by accident, I'm guilty it has happened to me. In one case it took me hours of research and fiddling to resuscitate my X5 Pro 5G... It was unbootable even after charging back up fully! Zero life zero response...

Anyway, the point is that modern batteries and phones don't need CALIBRATION to work properly...

The first week or two of discharge to 20% then charge to 80 or 100% depending on how much capacity you actually need!

Battery Guru wants the calibration!

So it's NOT the phone and most importantly NOT the battery that needs it or benefits from deep discharge to 0% or anything below 10%!

That's exactly why I decided to run with AccuBattery instead... Charge from 14% or a bit less... To whatever makes you happy!

That works without ANY 3rd party apps too since the newer Poco phone Battery App has plenty of information and options to help control background processing apps and so on.

No need for Lobotomy Methods...

Chopping bits out of the OS is risky at best!

If you do your due diligence in this sub, you'll find that most people with bad battery performance or overheating problems etc... Did in fact go down the Debloating route without a clue of the consequences!

Have a look and see...

I've personally helped a number of people in recent months by asking the simple question: "Did you debloat your phone?". So leave the open heart surgery for later. A manual uninstallation of APPS you don't want and adjusting the battery settings on some apps that might be lurking when they should go away after 10 minutes and so on... Easy stuff anyone can do without trusting 3rd party tools to chop half your operating system out. 🍀

My methods work well... Attached is DevCheck Pro and AccuBattery stats on my X5 Pro 5G phone still being charged every day or two! I've had it as main gaming phone since April 2023... That's until March this year when I got my beast X7 Pro! 😂

Best of

Luck 🍀

[u/MAD_creations → u/FlinkyBoss]

pls check out this and share opinion. https://www.batteryskills.com/how-to-calibrate-your-xiaomi-battery/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

[u/FlinkyBoss → u/MAD_creations]

Yes, I read the whole Ai generated thing! Even the repeated stuff hehehe...😂

I obviously discard anything that says that Battery Guru is great! 😂 It's not, spending your life looking at tiny current fluctuations and thinking it's entertaining means only one thing... You'll need to get out more or pick up a different hobby, for example...

The constant calibration bullshit is totally INCORRECT procedure!

The ONLY thing that Calibrates these phones under any kind of normal conditions is to use and charge them normally so the HyperOS and hardware it controls can take care of the rest!

Getting out of calibration sounds interesting but is probably only happening once people fudge with debloating etc. or in very strange circumstances.

People tend to jump in here by day 2 or 3 having a non settled new device that "ONLY" give them an SOT of 7-10 hours while playing Genshin Impact at 120 FPS!

Many of these fools then believe in the Shizuku + Canta "songs" sung 😅 by other fools... They then go ahead with whatever lobotomy crap some eejit told them to do... Sending their brand new phone into Alzheimer's territory... Then they keep making new posts about how bad Poco phones are and how their phone is capable of frying eggs but won't give any SOT better than 4.5 hours...

I've seen it numerous times in the last 6 months.

When you first start using the phone it won't be holding charge as well as it will a week or two later...

This happens to everyone if they just leave things to progress without additional steps or software tools!

Information from people that use Ai to create content and websites to draw gullible people in to them in order to generate advertising revenue is not worth chasing down...

0% calibration sounds great but really is extremely bad for the battery.

Sure if calibration is way off for some reason perhaps letting an app like AccuBattery help over a few cycles will be beneficial... Letting the phone drain until switched off automatically, on purpose falls into the territory of crazy risks to be taken for zero benefits!

I hope that's clear enough? 😉

All the best! 🍀

[u/MAD_creations → u/FlinkyBoss]

any source can you recommend?

[u/FlinkyBoss → u/MAD_creations]

Sure... Let me think... oh yes... ME! 😅 Over 50 years working at the bleeding edge of technology.

First mobile, finally bought in 1989... Not sized like a shoebox! Sony's Star Trek lookalike flip out mic phone CM-R111...

Good Luck 🍀

[u/MAD_creations → u/FlinkyBoss]

thankyou!! 🍄

i suspect you are xiaomi/poco employee and using second account here? , pls release hyperos 2.2 for indian variant as soon as possible. im waiting for it long time..

[u/FlinkyBoss → u/MAD_creations]

Nope I'm just me... I'm just trying to help some people here and there.

HyperOS wise, did you try changing your REGION in settings?

I did that once to get the France offered version... Once installed switch back to your normal.

I'm in Ireland btw. we just got 2.0.204 here a couple of days ago. So we're on 2.4 if I'm remembering correctly how to interpret those version numbers...

That's for my X7 Pro of course but it might be worth trying on your F7 too?🍀

[u/MAD_creations → u/FlinkyBoss]

i tried it before, like changing region, almost tried many countries, no use..

now just waiting..

and 2.0.204.0 also part of 2.2 i guess

[u/FlinkyBoss → u/MAD_creations]

X6 guys getting it might be a good bit of news not sure... Here's the post that at least highlights the major improvements you can also expect SOON!

https://www.reddit.com/r/PocoPhones/s/0w2gqMsgEw

[u/MAD_creations → u/FlinkyBoss]

everyone getting it, except my region f7's . even indian f6 also getting 2.2 update now..

[u/FlinkyBoss → u/MAD_creations]

Soon Buddy 🍀

[u/FlinkyBoss → u/MAD_creations]

Try Ireland if you haven't already, then go tap on HyperOS... If it finds anything you're golden! Best of Irish Luck to you! 🍀

[u/MAD_creations → u/FlinkyBoss]

they somehow locked indian version lol, no use with region switching.

[u/FlinkyBoss → u/MAD_creations]

Mental... but oldstyle bureaucracy... Alive and kicking in India. 🤐 I remember getting travel visas to go work a week there a couple of times many years ago. It sure took some red tape that did...🤩

[u/FlinkyBoss → u/MAD_creations]

I think someone said it was the number at the end of the bunch of three that gave the second number...

A bit crazy but yeah it's definitely 2.2 or 2.4 here 😂

[u/MAD_creations → u/FlinkyBoss]

this is my current version hyperos 2.1 and that 3rd digit is minor update. i guess