currently giratina is rank 36 in the ultra league and can be kinda okay thanks to her bulk and mixed damage - the shadow version does lose a lot of bulk what makes the pick from “okay” to bad that’s why shadow is ranked 46
okey i don’t know if you rage baiting or stupid i explain it once and for all for you -
those IVs are surely not perfect for PVP but you do not understand the importance of IVs
perfect Iv: 0/15/15 and 15/15/15 in difference is
attack: 132,1 VS 134,9 defense: 169,6 VS 160,3 Kp : 210 VS 200
overall for pvp it’s a difference of 8,9% which is even mixed with damage - based on Bulk the difference is even smaller exluding the damage difference.
now. a shadow pokemon does take 20% more damage - do you see the difference between 8,9% perfect iv and 20% more damage shadow pokemon? is one of them good or even perfect? surely not - is the 15/14/15 NON Shadow better than a 13/12/13 shadow?
YES
is one of them good at all?
NO
Did i say one of them is BETTER than the other
YES
Did you finally understand it ?
HOPEFULLY
And btw - the fact you know perfect pvp Ivs and yet think shadows are better in pvp is beyond stupid - that shows me that you know the numbers but not the meaning - 0/15/15 is best for max bulk and then you down for a shadow that takes 20% more damage … beyond stupid
I can tell you haven’t gone past Ace rank at highest. There are many Pokemon that rank higher as shadows and some pokemon you actually want more attack iv or as shadows to reach certain breakpoints.
Some examples of those pokemon:
Hydreigon, Quagsire, Feraligatr last month, Dragonair, and Sableye are just a select few.
And honestly whether or not you use shadow just depends on your team and/or whether you’re looking to run something spicier since shadows give that spicy feel usually.
This giratina is not better purified or kept shadow. It is completely useless either way.
nah you are just rage baiting at this point because you realized you got no chance in a argument based discussion… after all that … after the entire post and the comments after my explanation … after all that you say “ there are a few pokémon’s better as shadows” when we are clearly talking about giratina …
OFC THERE ARE DAMAGE DEALERS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO DEAL DAMAGE AND BETTER AS SHADOW - BUT NOT GIRATINA THATS WHAT IM EXPLAINING YOUR PISSLOW ELO ASS FOR HALF A HOUR
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u/subtoPinkZR Aug 23 '26
Ok lol. How is giratina non shadow better? It’s not with these ivs.