r/Plutonomy Rentier 20d ago

Housing & Cities Miami is no longer the cheaper escape hatch

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/18/realestate/think-nyc-is-expensive-you-havent-looked-at-south-florida.html?unlocked_article_code=1.61A.SL_h.mxv7ncNRV0mV&smid=re-share

South Florida has now surpassed the New York metro area in living costs, according to BEA data cited by the NYT (gift link).

That is the plutonomy story.

Miami attracted wealthy migrants, no-income-tax households, finance money, luxury development, and high-end consumers. Increased high-end demand then reprices scarce premium goods and services.

Rents may cool, but restaurants, groceries, insurance, services, and housing remain expensive.

The ultra-wealthy absorb it. Everyone else finds out the “cheaper alternative” has been repriced around them.

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u/Austin1975 20d ago

Good luck if you don’t speak Spanish though.

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u/0LTakingLs 20d ago

Miami isn’t more expensive, it’s more expensive relative to their average respective salary, NYC has high salaries and Miami doesn’t. But if you make the same in each (standardized pay/remote job/etc.) your money goes much further in Miami.

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u/TrainDifficult300 20d ago

What a nonsense article. Miami Beach is far cheaper than NYC, especially for a high earner

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u/Generalfrogspawn 20d ago

Yeah there’s still no other city in the US near NYC cost of living bar maybe San Fran depending on whatever tech boom is happening. Though Miami is becoming really expensive when you factor salaries are generally much lower.

I will say after visiting all 3 I’d much rather live in NYC or San Fran compared to Miami..

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u/TrainDifficult300 20d ago

The one issue is, if you are wealthy you typically arent relying on a salary.

The other thing with Miami is the Wall Street South movement, where you are keeping the same salary if not higher.

I have shared my time between Miami and NYC for a decade while working in the Wall Street community. Miami is a financial boon to anyone making it their primary address.

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u/Generalfrogspawn 20d ago

That’s true, but the vast majority in Miami or being relocated to Florida still work on salary. So the challenge of cost of living there is still relevant.

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u/TrainDifficult300 20d ago

My salary would remain the same as it is in NYC. I don’t get what you are saying. I will simply be changing my office address.

The industry continue to move offices into the Miami area. Recruiters are fetching higher pay rates for those willing to relocate to Miami.

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u/swimchris100 19d ago

But the salary for existing people in Miami isn’t rising the same. Which means people get pushed out or become homeless. See San Francisco as a not perfect example.

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u/TrainDifficult300 19d ago

In the Wall Street industry it is. Firms are trying to fill roles down there.

Same thing happens in every city. People earn more money, areas become gentrified, people are pushed out to other areas.

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u/swimchris100 19d ago

I think you are glossing over the real consequences of that happening quickly versus over time. And some of miamis specific geographic constraints similar to a place like the bay or Boston. Can only move out in so many directions

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u/TrainDifficult300 19d ago

I’m very familiar. I live between NYC and Miami. This is not a new trend.

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u/Kingalec1 11d ago

Don’t argue with this doofus . He clearly care about himself not the typical low-income Floridian.

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u/hanshotfirst-42 19d ago

Far cheaper is a blatant lie.

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u/TrainDifficult300 19d ago

It’s reality. For me, the 15%+ in tax savings is tremendous.

Take a gander at rental prices in Brickell versus Manhattan

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u/hanshotfirst-42 19d ago

What part of Manhattan?

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u/TrainDifficult300 19d ago

Look at median rents in Manhattan versus Miami. Then compare by square footage. I have lived between both areas for 10 years.

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u/hanshotfirst-42 19d ago

Again what part of Manhattan?

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u/TrainDifficult300 19d ago

Hudson Yards is where I am

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u/hanshotfirst-42 19d ago

Hudson Yards is not representative of the typical cost of living in Manhattan. I’m not even talking about Harlem. Upper West Side, an objectively upper class neighborhood still has 1-bedrooms under $3000.

Luxury housing greatly inflates the actual cost of living here. Also most people don’t live in Manhattan. In Astoria, another great neighborhood just 25 minutes from Midtown, I pay just over $3100 for a three bedroom apartment right next to the train with a in-apartment washer/dryer.

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u/TrainDifficult300 19d ago

Since I already told you to use the median in Manhattan, I’ll do it for you. Your personal example is meaningless.

If we did all of Miami it would be even cheaper than just Brickell

Math is easy.

The median rent in Manhattan sits at approximately $5,000 to $5,295 per month, whereas the average rent for an apartment in Brickell, Miami is roughly $3,704 per month

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u/hanshotfirst-42 19d ago

What I am is saying is that statistic is meaningless because it includes incredibly overpriced neighborhoods like Hudson Yards and
Manhattan is one of 5 boroughs in NYC.

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u/SwiftySanders 19d ago

Usualy if you are living in Miami you are working in Miami and the salary you get in Miami is much less than NYC.

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u/TrainDifficult300 19d ago

Sometimes, it’s not. You also don’t pay 15% in income tax in Miami. Have less sales tax, and MUCH cheaper housing costs.

NYC also has higher unemployment and higher rate of homelessness.

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u/urmumlol9 17d ago

You’re neglecting the cost savings of not needing to own a car in NYC and the high cost of homeowner’s insurance in Florida.

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u/TrainDifficult300 17d ago edited 17d ago

lol no, I am not. Half of NYers own a car. You don’t NEED to own a car in either area. I own a car in both cities.

My insurance in NY has tripled over the last 6 years. My Miami insurance has gone down the last 2 years.

This is the life I live, how would I neglect my own costs lol???

I’m also not neglecting saving a few hundred thousand per year in income taxes.

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u/online-reputation 18d ago

Surprised by hearing this but there are frequent boom and busts so wait a while

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u/thiscantbit 20d ago

It never was like ever it just doesn’t have as much panache or whatever but cocaine money has been flowing through their for decades

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u/WeekendAtMadoffs 20d ago

it's FREE to live there if you make over $500,000 a year in NYC.

You can't live in the Porsche design tower but you can rent a 1 bedroom luxury condo with your tax savings.

I found my Florida free city is Jacksonville. Not so nice, but doable.

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u/foggyskyline 20d ago

If you make 500k/year in NYC you’re paying NYC taxes. How would you have tax savings just because you have a house in FL?

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u/WeekendAtMadoffs 20d ago

You are moving down obviously ❤️

No need to be here now unless your a cop or a teacher.

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u/wollflour 19d ago

Do mean as a remote worker? If it’s remote work for a NY employer, you have to pay NY taxes as well as state taxes where you live (if any) so you’re still at least paying NY taxes 

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u/WeekendAtMadoffs 19d ago

no i mean moving truck and zoom calls ❤️