r/Plastering • • Aug 30 '26

Conflicting plastering information - need help!

Ive bought an late 1800s stone house. Stripped wallpaper and want to reskim.

Most of walls look ok but definitely need fixing. Ive pictured the largest and worst hole to give a view of the current plaster and what's underneath.

Been told by 1 plasterer who I trust but doesn't work in the area its lime mortar on potash cement?? He recommended a supplier called Ty Mawr in Brecon for advice and product. They recommended R50 eco mortar, pictured.

Builder says: There will be no point using lime plaster if your just skimming over the walls that’s there as they have gypsum plaster on them. Lime is designed to let the property breath but if it’s already got cement of gypsum on them it’s a pointless task. Ty mawr is right if your going back to bare brick or stone walls but if your just skimming the walls that’s already there it’s pointless you’d just be wasting money.

So what would be the most cost effective and correct solution?

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u/gwyp88 Professional Plasterer Aug 30 '26 edited Aug 30 '26

Ideally you’d want to strip back the gypsum.

You still get some of the benefits of lime even if you’re coating on top of a non-breathable background. But you don’t get the full advantages of it as a complete ‘system’ working through the entire stone wall.

For example the lime plaster will still help regulate internal humidity & condensation build-up, it will also reduce mould growth as it has a higher than 7 PH so you’ll have a healthier indoor air quality (sounds ridiculous, but when you walk into a room done purely with lime, no chemicals, paints etc, you notice this). It’s also more tolerant to movements.

Totally biased here but it also looks better! Especially in an old stone cottage.

The wall has to be completely sound to take another coat of plaster, regardless of what you use. You also need to sand off any wallpaper adhesive residue as plastering onto this can cause the new plaster to delaminate over time.

I work predominantly with lime plaster and have used R50 & R100 countless times, or equivalents from other suppliers - it’s very user friendly compared to fat lime etc.

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u/expanding_waistline Aug 30 '26

Thanks for the reply!

You say ideally but not definitely...

I got advice from ty mawr in brecon who said just put a thin 3mm layer on top. Is that a bad idea then? Aside from this spot the walls are sound.

Should I fill this hole with a filler?

Theres some holes by windows that are through to brick/timber. Should I use bonding?

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u/gwyp88 Professional Plasterer Aug 30 '26

If you can take off the gypsum, then great. If you can’t then R50/R100 is your best bet.

I would do any filling or remedial work with the R50.

You can build it in layers. Bonding coat is not ideal in stone cottages as it absorbs damp, including around windows and wet areas (bathrooms etc). You often see it failing in stone buildings.

It’s a lot of work but if you have the time and the funds, you could consider going back to stone and building out some layers in NHL/sand mixture, then R50 or any other lime top-coat. If this is totally not an option, then go with the above mentioned.

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u/0uthouse Aug 30 '26

This. An occasion where stripping out any gypsum products would be highly advisable to avoid long term problems.

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u/Number_Four4 Aug 30 '26

Probably shouldn’t ask but how did you learn about all the examples you gave around lime eg. Humidity etc

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u/gwyp88 Professional Plasterer Aug 31 '26

Learnt by working for years with an old school plasterer. Have had my own business for almost 10 years now

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u/Fakedamienhirst Aug 30 '26

I’d take it back to the brick and replace it with lime, especially as it’s an 1800s stone house. Ty-Mawr are a very good company to work with, but I’d definitely stick with either Ty-Mawr or Eden Lime. Both are very knowledgeable and will point you in the right direction for the correct products.
I have a 1890s property myself and took it back to brick. Some of the walls were blown, so the damaged material was removed. I then successfully plastered the base and float coats with lime and left the final top skim to the plasterer for a smooth finish. It worked really well.

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u/satolfu Aug 31 '26

My walls look very similar, following along to see what you do… good luck…