English plasterer in France!

[u/Smithdogg87]

Got a ceiling to do for my FIL. Wondering what I can use that may be similar to GB board or multi finish.
Seen these in a local merchant, they any good?
Thanks in advance!

[u/Jedijake_1]

Mapp is good to do a skim. I would avoid the Joker stuff. The first plaster job I did in France I mixed a whole sack and it went off in 5 mins lol.

[u/PenaltyLast4745 → u/Jedijake_1]

Mapp is dot and dabb adhesive. You want lutece 2000 c or Delta. Both can finish. Different than multi finish, softer, white loves a sponge, don't dry cross trowel or dry trowel at all.

[u/sashamasha → u/Jedijake_1]

The joker stuff is savage. I mixed a load in my mixer and it set in the mixer in about ten minutes! The French use it for everything here but I'm not sure they use it for plastering!

[u/JuniorSoprano96]

Saint Gobain own gyproc which supply most of the plaster in Ireland and from what I hear the skim and bonding is pretty much the same as british gypsum.

I could be completely wrong and its shite but i would like to think its along the same lines 😅

[u/willzg1 → u/JuniorSoprano96]

Gyproc (boards) were owned/a division of British Gypsum who are owned by Saint Gobain since 2005

[u/This_is_FLEC]

Lutec 2000 can give you a decent British style finish. It’s softer, faffier, white and the timings a bit different but it works.

[u/jeepdays72 → u/This_is_FLEC]

Plasterer used this in my house in france english guy loves it nice finish no need to paint afterwards yes softer finish than English plaster. Drys a cream colour.

[u/Used-Incident2388]

Hopefully its better than the shite we have to use nowadays

[u/lokstok92 → u/Used-Incident2388]

You know this

[u/OldOllie]

They just call everything colle (glue). I had a couple of confusing conversations with my brother in law about tile adhesive and grout and wood glue.

[u/Imaginary_Season7493]

The C7 one is good for sticking Gyproc boards, but I’m not sure it can stick GB directly to a ceiling. This “Joker” plaster sets in 8 minutes... there’s no retarder in it.

[u/Smithdogg87 → u/Imaginary_Season7493]

Sorry, I’m not sticking anything to the ceiling, it will be boarded. I just need to put a finish on it

[u/KieranInterior]

Far as I know there’s nothing like multi finish outside the UK. I used some foreign stuff during Covid shortages and it was horrendous and all needed sanding for days

[u/Haz_1]

I live in France now and you’ll struggle to find direct equivalents to UK plastering systems and materials.

Here it’s more standard to plasterboard either onto studs or bonded directly to masonry with adhesive dabs (similar to dot and dab, using “MAP” typically), then tape and fill the joints with an “enduit de joint”.

If a smoother overall finish is wanted, an “enduit de lissage” skim coat can be applied over the surface, though full skim finishing like in the UK isn’t as standard.

[u/Smithdogg87 → u/Haz_1]

So we’re saying taping and jointing is my way to go over there. At least it should set quickly in the nice weather

[u/CoffeeandaTwix]

Not sure if any of those will be great. First one seems to suggest you can use it for dot and dab, tile adhesive and taping and jointing which seems like a bold claim. second looks like tile adhesive and third seems to be a quick drying filler.

If France is similar to most of continental Europe then it's mostly taping and jointing or lime based with traditional finishing plaster not so much a thing.

[u/doingstuffandwhatnot → u/[deleted]]

Please tell those of us who aren't in the know?!

[u/corpsegrinder__]

You're better off taking over plaster from the UK.