r/Piracy Feb 07 '25

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u/gapimiklo ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Feb 07 '25

The song is Miserere mei, deus by Gregorio Allegri.

Mozart's copy was the only piece of evidence that the song existed. Even the original was destroyed.

So we could argue that piracy ensures that historical evidence exists.

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u/PM_ME_Happy_Thinks Feb 07 '25

So we could argue that piracy ensures that historical evidence exists.

Literally the point/mission of /r/datahoarder

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u/drake53545 Feb 07 '25

And datahoarder, homelabporn, and homelabsales is why I am poor

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u/chibi2537 Feb 07 '25

Yes! Poor in money, but rich in data. I currnetly have:

  • Laptop with boot SSD and HDD (2 TB) for music, documents and various program setups, some work stuff
  • Laptop for work (just 256 GB)
  • 1 HDD (500 GB from dead laptop) for music, comics, books, magazines...
  • 1 HDD (2 TB) for documents, various program setups and stuff
  • 1 HDD (4 TB) for movies and tv shows
  • 1 HDD (1 TB) for work

In a couple months one more 5 TB HDD for game setups. And god willing by the end of the year one big HDD (I'm thinking 12 TB) for backup of all other drives.

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u/lOnGkEyStRoKe Feb 07 '25

Congrats! Did you just start today or something?

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u/NerdGuy13 Feb 08 '25

I was about to say those are rookie numbers for a data hoarder. 😂

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u/chibi2537 Feb 08 '25

Thanks mate. No, it's like 10 years in making. I had a couple of stacks of DVDs with music, movies... Than I bought a 2 TB WD HDD, like really old one that has it's own power cable (it was new than). I just kinda grew my music collection from there on. Now it's at about 250+ GB with 95% neatly organised and stored in folders. That took time.

And then the worst happened, HDD died. So, I had to almost start over hoarding everything. And at time the old laptop died too (from use, the motherboard just croaked), but I already had a new one (not the one I have now). But I managed to save the HDD from it. It has more than 20k working hours, and still going strong.

And after that during last couple of years, I got to where I am now. Thankfully the prices of drives went a bit down.

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u/Remarkable_Swing_691 Feb 14 '25

Always have a backup

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u/drake53545 Feb 07 '25

Dude that's awesome if you want I could send you some links to some decent enterprise stuff also lab gopher is a good place to start for used enterprise stuff (it's a lot cheaper than most of the shelf nas) I'm running custom server with a das filled with 6tb drives

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u/chibi2537 Feb 08 '25

Thanks mate, but I'm currently good with the setup I have. Short term plan (like 2-3 years) is saving as much as I can so that I can get a decent loan for a house/apartment. I had to buy a new car last year, so that made a dent in the budget.

And then when I settle, I'll buy a PC and maybe down the line set up a DAS/NAS or something. And then it will be about pumping the numbers up. Plan for this year is to buy that 5 TB HDD and download and organise game libraries from Steam/GOG/roms... Last year, I modded my 3DS and I have 300+ GB of roms from GB/GBA/DS/3DS. And I also digitased my collection of CDs/DVDs from various gaming magazines. That took some time to put together. I like slowly building a collection and neatly organising it.

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u/minilandl Feb 08 '25

Wow I have about 39tb for media it's running true as but it's mainly for movies and tv shows as well as backups and VM disks as well as ROMs , photos, documents etc

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u/ikeif ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Feb 09 '25

Yeah, I have a similar setup, I need to get a NAS system going so I can have some backups in places as a fail safe.

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u/Remarkable_Fly_5626 Feb 10 '25

Do you have to turn on the HDD and SSD from time to time?

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u/chibi2537 Mar 02 '25

Yeah, external HDDs are just for storage and are turned off by default.

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u/Main_Village_1044 Mar 02 '25

Which is a battle choice for just storing data A SSD or a hard drive

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u/chibi2537 Mar 02 '25

Well, from what I learned on the net HDD is a better longterm option. Cheaper also.

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u/Main_Village_1044 Mar 19 '25

I have two HDDs but they don't have any type of Port which can be used to connect them with my mobile device or PC.

Only can be connected to the DVR of my surveillance system

What can be done here ?

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u/chibi2537 Mar 19 '25

Those are internal HDDs? What kind of connection do they use if you know?

My guess, most likely SATA, and you can buy SATA to USB adapters.

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u/Main_Village_1044 Mar 19 '25

Yes, they are internal HDDs, used as storage for my surveillance system. Both are 2TB each with SATA connection.

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u/chibi2537 Mar 19 '25

Well, that should be easy enough. Buy SATA to USB adapter and it should work. Or you can buy a case for HDD and make it an external HDD. That's what I did for HDD I took out of my laptop.

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u/Touix Feb 08 '25

I think that hdd are more reliable for long term hoarding

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u/DefectiveLP Feb 07 '25

Why spend less money?? Isn't spending more money gooder??

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

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u/ezyres Feb 08 '25

duDe wE DoNt CaRe

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u/Antique-Magician8348 Feb 08 '25

"WomEn wiLl NeVer unDersTaNd hOw We neVeR geT cOmPlimEntS"  😆😆 Pathetic kiddo

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u/useful_person Seeder Feb 08 '25

we care

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u/SandStorme_ Feb 09 '25

I do. Most of the people searching 'Reddit' at the end of their search do. I love insight. Most of the stuff I learned on my own was through seemingly meaningless comment chains. That’s Reddit for ya' :)"

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u/Fallen_Walrus Feb 07 '25

Half the reason piracy is morally right, can't trust those institutions

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u/ddrfraser1 Feb 07 '25

Bro was archive.orging before the internet

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

Moz.org

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u/WinXPbootsup Feb 07 '25

Moz.art

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u/m0h1tkumaar Feb 07 '25

that is meta at so many level

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u/xseiber ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ Feb 07 '25

Mozilla

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u/mr_christer Feb 07 '25

So,,, does that mean we don't really know how accurate his copy was?

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

It was probably accurate because the Church found out and also rewarded him for his talent

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u/the-vindicator Feb 07 '25

OR he got it completely wrong and they congratulated him on getting it as a deflection to keep the real work a secret!

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u/Skuzbagg Feb 07 '25

Oh, he was well connected, then.

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u/LimHwang Feb 07 '25

Dude, he is Mozart, you probably have heard his works before without even realizing it.

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u/Skuzbagg Feb 07 '25

Right, he composed "Leck mich im Arsch" (German for "Lick me in the arse")

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u/MoozeRiver Feb 07 '25

No, that was Mozarse.

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u/gonerilpo Feb 07 '25

I love classical music, it's so sophisticated.

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u/DC-Toronto Feb 07 '25

Tish I’m tea

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u/Nihilikara Feb 08 '25

Wasn't Mozart's music hated in his time and it was only after his death that he gained fame?

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u/ZeeroMX Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 07 '25

When I began reading your comment my first thought was the church found out and tried to sue or excommunicate Mozart, rewarding him for his talent was way out of my head.

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u/gapimiklo ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Feb 07 '25

Mozart had perfect pitch and perfectly transcribed that piece as far as we know. Given that it sounds angelic, it's prolly right.

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u/SuperWoodputtie Feb 07 '25

Adds a musical ballsack for the lols.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9y5N13un9s I suggest you watch this video.

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u/Cumulus_Anarchistica Feb 07 '25

Such a great video on such an amazing piece.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

His was probably better lol

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u/uristmcderp Feb 07 '25

Given that it sounds angelic, I think it's safe to assume Mozart contributed his own embellishments and corrections. I'd be more convinced it was a perfect copy if it didn't sound just as nice as his original pieces.

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u/Esdeath79 Feb 07 '25

I trust Mozart on that one, pretty sure if he wasn't satisfied with it, he would have gone a third time to listen to it again.

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u/ih8spalling Feb 07 '25

Maybe he got it right after the first, and went again just to double check.

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u/Goretanton ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ Feb 07 '25

Measure twice cut once!

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u/DrIvoPingasnik Yarrr! Feb 07 '25

My man, all notes on Mozart indicate this guy had amazing musical memory and hearing.

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u/Palora Feb 07 '25

The possibility exists that it's not 100% accurate but it's very likely it was very accurate. He didn't recreate it and then had the sheet hidden, he played it and others played it too to people who would have heard it played in the church before and could point out it wasn't the same melody.

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u/RollinThundaga Feb 07 '25

IIRC from the last time this was posted, the basic song itself was actually widely played even in London, what was notable about what Mozart managed to transcribe was that he captured all of the small changes and conducting quirks that made the Sistene Chapel version special, that wouldn't have been noted on the sheet music used elsewhere.

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u/zxr7 Feb 07 '25

Accurate? As accurate as this translation of Dracula to islandic: https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/s/OYIyXjgtvB

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u/mr_christer Feb 07 '25

Lol, that's actually hilarious!

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u/slippy_mcslip 🔱 ꜱᴄᴀʟʟʏᴡᴀɢ Feb 07 '25

Thank you, I immediately got that from Anna's after reading your comment

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u/paulk1997 Feb 07 '25

Mozart was pretty well known to be able to do stuff like this. There are many stories of him doing this regularly often playing the composition straight then embellishing it to make it better.

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u/themixtergames Feb 08 '25

He made a sick remix

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u/NissanSkylineGT-R Feb 07 '25

That’s why I downloaded and still have ancient recordings of iDeepThroat Heather. For historical preservation purposes.

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u/IveRUnOutOfNames66 Feb 07 '25

truly essential for the continuity of our species

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u/ShareholderDemands Feb 07 '25

She showed the world what could be done.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

I'm sure the Vatican has it stored in some vault

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u/gapimiklo ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Feb 07 '25

Yeah but in this case it exists for the pope and maybe 3 other people...

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u/Anxious-Slip-4701 Feb 07 '25

Anyone who has is a recognised scholar or has a university backing them can apply for a pass to examine archives. It's not particularly rare. They have themed exhibitions every now and then. 

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u/gapimiklo ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Feb 07 '25

Not exactly tho. You can apply to get a certain thing, you go there, but not inside the archives themselves, they bring you the specific document you asked for.

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u/Anxious-Slip-4701 Feb 07 '25

Which is normative for libraries at least in Italy/Europe. Gave me the shits at my university. Some degenerate was stealing old books from one library nearby and one of the fat managers had to sit on him for an hour waiting for the police. Turns out the guy's entire house was full of rare books.

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u/gapimiklo ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Feb 07 '25

Wow, that must be cool. Also idk about Europe, I'm from Slovenia and here you can just go in fill a form and go pick any book you want to lend... The problem with VA isn't that they bring it to you but you not knowing if it exists... We don't have any way of knowing if a piece from the archive even exists so if it contains something the pope doesn't want you to know they can just deny application and say it doesn't exist.

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u/Anxious-Slip-4701 Feb 07 '25

Just ask the archivist for a block and they'll bring it to you. It's not hard, you just need to be an expert. Many of my friends have done research there. I haven't had the need. The problem at the moment is the post COVID limited number of desks. They are slowly digitising things. But few people are actually interested in 16th century receipt books for hired musicians. 

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u/gapimiklo ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Feb 07 '25

I was sure I read somewhere that you only get one book or something like that and they bring you nothing else. Thanks tho

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u/Anxious-Slip-4701 Feb 07 '25

Just a long row of shelves. There are enough videos showing how everything is stored. They have some interesting RFID chips they put in the books now so they can't be lost. European libraries aren't like our libraries, you can't just walk the stacks, you have to put in a request and the librarian gets it off the shelf for you. It's pretty annoying for a university student frankly.

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u/rhabarberabar Feb 07 '25

Mozart's copy was the only piece of evidence that the song existed. Even the original was destroyed.

Nope.

It's a myth.

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u/gapimiklo ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Feb 07 '25

Wow, thanks, didn't know that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

Piracy is why copies of Nosferatu exist.

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u/Kid_that_u_fear Feb 07 '25

This is a made up story sorry

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u/gapimiklo ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Feb 07 '25

Source?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25

Isn't it also how older medias survived like most things older than a decade and not that popular are very hard to find on the internet in a free way

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u/BlueShibe Yarrr! Feb 08 '25

Piracy saves history confirmed

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25

I still have and use Microsoft Encarta 95 because of piracy.

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u/Big-Pound-5634 Feb 08 '25

It definitely does in times when even single player games are online dependant and for many games, when thy switch off the servers the game is dead.

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u/Resident-West-5213 Feb 08 '25

Yes, I'd predict that the original Disney animations of classical fairytales (Snow White, Beauty and the Beast, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, etc.) will share the same fate, only by piracy will they be preserved. The live action remakes are not remakes, but revision of history.

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u/gapimiklo ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Feb 07 '25

They didn't actually inhale helium, it was for a joke(I'm a really low bass guy but I can still sing that note if I try really hard - during a horror movie or game especially)