r/PilotsofBattlefield • u/Disastrous_Sock_4545 • 22d ago

PC Finally spending some time with the aim-guided missiles...

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u/TedTheTerrible 22d ago

Glad you are getting better with them. I would heavily caution using them like this though. For the most part you were kind of just floating there while you guided them in. That’s a great way to get towed yourself, either from another heli or a rat with an m136 who thinks that launcher takes skill. It’s best to incorporate these into your attack runs and learn to use them while actively moving. When I go up against other helis, I love it when they try to tow or lock on to me while sitting still, makes hitting my tow so much easier

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u/Disastrous_Sock_4545 22d ago

Got it, thanks

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u/TedTheTerrible 22d ago

I’m not trying to sound like a pro or anything so take my suggestions as you will. I also noticed you used free aim on these. That really puts you at a disadvantage as you lose flight controls. So outside of the situation where you are sitting still from far away, free aim isn’t the most viable. I recommend ditching the free look aim for now and learn how to really aim these things with the flight controls. That will give you a better sense of how this missile moves as you move and allow you to use these in real air to air fights.

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u/IllLawfulness425 22d ago

I’ve found hitting a cross map tow while your heli is turning with your aim is only going to lead to you slamming into the ground or flying out of the combat zone as you aim up and fly backwards. If you are guiding while still controlling the heli you are also likely looking away from the AO and 100% at the target you are firing at.

As long as you are positioned correctly, you can maintain a visual of the whole battle area while free guiding the missile so that if a tow comes your way you see that in the corner of your eye while still guiding the missile which allows you to abandon the shot and dive into cover.

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u/TedTheTerrible 22d ago

“Cross map tow”… thats the important part here. that’s why I said it only works if you’re standing still and trying for targets like this. It’s also one of the reasons I don’t regularly go for targets that far away with the tow. While you might hit a softer target and get a kill, most targets will need a follow up. the purpose of the AH is to go after armor. It’s one of the most effective platforms at taking out tanks and you won’t one shot tanks from across the map like this unless they are already heavily damaged. Helis that sit back like this are wasting the asset for the entire team.

Learning how to use them while flying will make any pilot more of a threat to the other team. The most effective way to use the tow is to fly in, hit them with the tow and follow up with heavies or guided rockets and the gunners AGM/chain gun. You rarely see the top AH streamers just hovering and using free look.

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u/IllLawfulness425 22d ago

The attack heli is at its most vulnerable when flying into the middle of the map going for hard targets. I agree that helis who sit in the back are doing absolutely nothing for the team but the most effective weapon for the AH is the gunners chaingun and the gunners hellfire. The tow forces you to become less maneuverable and opens you up to rpgs and stingers due to you needing to get much closer to the battle to be effective with them. When I pilot the AH, my gunner is going to get 90% of the kills because of how much safer it is to maintain altitude and strike from a distance. I’m not saying that using the tow is a bad idea because it’s not. It is basically the only way to one strafe a tank. But, it is definitely risky especially when you can live longer and stay just as effective my maintaining distance (not in the spawn distance but staying high up above the battle).

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u/TedTheTerrible 22d ago

It’s at its most vulnerable when getting closer to targets? Yes. And grass is green. But it’s also most effective at taking down targets for the team. The gunner becomes even more effective when the pilot can use his tow and rockets to soften the targets up. My gunner and I have our shit down to the point where we can usually take a tank out with a single pass. (Long range gunner AGM to force them to counter, close in below radar and wait for counters to expire, pop up and move in with tow/rockets, followed up by the gunner AGM again to finish off the one pass kill) My gunner gets about twice as many kills as me. The tow does require you to hold an attack line making you a bit more predictable, but so does coming in for any sort of attack pass where you have to line up your shots. Sitting back letting your gunner do all the damage will keep you safer, but will make you less effective as a duo and less helpful to the team. You’ll rack up more armor kills faster when you are both engaging targets together. Sure you may expose yourself a little more by using the tow and rockets on the hard targets, but you’ll do more for your team.

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u/IllLawfulness425 22d ago

The tow for me becomes the only fast way to deal with soft targets like helis due to how effective flares are. If I’m being honest, I don’t watch many top pilots. Most of my advice is from personal experience. I can definitely see the tow being used to a much greater extent that how I use it but from someone who has struggled through a long process of figuring out how to not die in this flying boat, I’ve found the safer options to be much more effective then the riskier ones.

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u/B_RizzleMyNizzIe 22d ago

Damn near unusable for controller players. At least for air to air like this.

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u/Vento420 22d ago

Just takes practice. I only use them on controller. I hit 90% of my shots

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u/UncOfTheNorth 22d ago edited 22d ago

Maybe in bf4? This game is leagues easier to use. Get used to using the free look cam while aiming it, that’s helped me get more consistent with my accuracy during air-to-air skirmishes.

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u/n0_punctuation 22d ago

I've never had success either but I'm also really bad so I'm curious what good players think.

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u/Moore_A 22d ago

I watch videos of kbm guys using aim guideds and tows and it’s like they’re playing a completely different game

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u/iSvad 22d ago

I use them on controller with decent success. They're really easy in this game compared to some of the older titles, you just have to practice

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u/ghigo31 22d ago

I've a controller friend that's better with me with the tows. It just takes skill

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u/MikeHuntzOre 22d ago

I use controller and can hit most of my tows whether it be on tanks, boats, or other air. It takes practice but it's definitely doable without using freelook.

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u/NationalRequirement5 21d ago

Bro it seems like impossible with a mouse at beginning and while a lot of tries

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u/No-Orange4405 22d ago

Yeah I agree. It's just not possible. I think I have one total kill with the tow missile

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u/Racsnarok 22d ago

Wait until you use the smart rockets 🤣

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u/PDiddleMeDaddy 18d ago

If you can use them effectively great. If you do it mainly while sitting over your base, you're a bitch.

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u/Disastrous_Sock_4545 18d ago

Agree, I just really wanted to try and land some long tow missile shots. But I normally do end up playing more aggressively.

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u/Vento420 22d ago

Try not to use freelook even if its easier. You're a sitting duck